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Women of the Wall is a sham

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women of the wallPretty much the entire Jewish world is talking about Women of the Wall, they have either desecrated one of the worlds holy sites or made it holy by standing up for women’s rights, but I’m not sure that either are correct. Since when do we even allow women to come to the wall in the first place. Do women have a chiyuv to daven? We all know hashem is slow to even answer the prayers of men who daven without a minyan and at the wall, women are too far from a minyan to have their prayers answered. So basically all women who go to the kotel to pray are violating many laws pertaining to bracha l’vatala. They are also taking up space which could be used for men, men who actually have a valid chiyuv to daven.

I’m actually quite surprised that the Charedim haven’t taken this angle yet, in many neighborhoods the laws against women (in the name of modesty of course) are so strict that many stores have separate hours, sidewalks have separate sides, and women have to sit in the back of the bus. These are in reference to mundane matters, yet the holy kotel is still a coed affair. One would think that at such a holy site, the women would either be banned, or restricted to certian times.

Fact is, I’m kind of embarrassed that the one time I would agree with the Charedim on something (an actual issue of halachic nature) they are being very weak. They are weak in their resilience against the true forces of evil, women of the wall is just an excuse to get riled up for many people, but if they would look at the larger picture they would realize that women don’t belong at the wall.

In this case, the frum women who are not putting on tefillin or laining from the Torah are just as at fault. Are they really there to pray their hearts out? Why couldn’t they just do it at home? Do they actually think that praying yechidus at the wall is better? Why not send their husbands to pray and insert notes? Why not be a true baal habusta and tend to the home while your husband does the work that Hashem intended of him and not of you.

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  • Me

    Heshy women do have a chiyuv do daven, they just don’t have a chiyuv do daven at at specific time and with a minyan. There is NO problem with women davening at the wall, thousands of Orthodox women daven there all the time without incicdent. The problem is them wearing tallis and tefilin and laining.
    I don’t understand why if the Reform and Conservative think that the Bais Hamikdash is unimportant and that there will never be a sacrificial service again, why are they interested in the Wall?
    Many non frum like to point out that there was no mechitzah at the wall prior to 1967. That is because the Jordanians, the British and the Turks wouldn’t let us have one!

    • http://www.frumsatire.net Heshy Fried

      Just because thousands of people do something, doesn’t mean it’s right. Until this year, thousands of people ate quinoa on pesach, this year they realized they were eating treife. Eventually I’m hoping that those fighting women of the wall wake up and realize that there is nothing halachically wrong with women laining, wearing tefillin, or talesim, but they just don’t need to do it at the wall – they will also realize that women should have a time for wall prayer, a time when men are either learning or working and a time when women are not tending to the stove or children.

      I sincerely believe that until we are zoche to see a men only wall, we will be in golus controled by feminists.

      • http://yeshivadaze.wordpress.com Shragi

        Forget the stupid Sharansky plan, go with the Heshy plan; the women should be at the kosel at a time which is “neither day nor night” and, as a bonus for all their hard work, they can have the whole thing for themselves.

  • anon109

    Brilliant work. It is evident that the reform and other so-called forms of Judaism are weakening true Torah values. You are a true defender of the faith.

  • Telz Angel

    I know many of the bocherim in Telz Yeshiva fully endorse a world that is filled with men. Men in the mikvah, men against the wall, men with their tzitzis hanging out swinging suggestively to and fro. It would make them very happy.

    • http://yeshivadaze.wordpress.com Shragi

      The only wall in Telz that still has any men on it is the mizrach vant.

      • TO SHRAGI

        why the hate?

        • http://yeshivadaze.wordpress.com Shragi

          Why the multiple names?
          And why the trolling?
          And where is there any hate in my comment?

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  • shocked

    Wow. I thought you were being sarcastic until i read ur comments. Come on this is the weakest and simplest way Of seeing an issue. be knowlegable in an area of study before making grand sweeping generalizations. Actually u can do whatever the hell u want bc its ur blog. Please. I beg you. Learn chassidus. Learn why before the how. I smart chap like u ought to try :)

    • I can’t believe you thought he was serious

      Since Heshy is probably having a good laugh at all the serious comments, I figured I’d chime in about how Heshy works.

      If it sounds too extreme to the left or the right it’s probably satire

      If it sounds like something you as a frum heimishe person agree with, it’s probably satire.

      If it happens to be on this site and it isn’t something waxing poetic about mountain biking, chabad girls, or the bay area, it’s probably satire.

      If it’s on this site at all, it’s satire or humor 95% of the time.

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  • Anonymous

    Dear Heshy,

    Your site has really gone downhill. I can tell by the way so many of your commenters (thus, presumably, your readers) do not have the first inclination of the meaning of “satire”. Why do so many readers take a literal interpretation of your articles? How horribly offensive, especially when they try to educate you out of your satirical viewpoint. Please improve the quality of comments by requiring all commenters to show proof of passing English 101 before posting.

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