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There’s nothing like a Wasp trying talk to Chassidim. The best line is “They have so much concentration, not like their in a camp” Gotta love the Boro Parl stare!
This is incredibly dumb. What’s the point of this?
Quite the opposite. This is very important. We have created a society within the frum community that is unable to interact with others outside of a frum community. This needs to be revealed and addressed.
Kate makes it clear that the boro park community is so insular and out of touch with society that they cannot engage in a civil conversation with a non-threatening person. It’s a shanda, a Chillul Hashem, frankly it’s embarrassing. The navi Yishayahu tells us we to be an Ohr LaGoyim (Light unto the nations). How can we be an ohr lagoyim if our community members are unable to have a benign interaction with a non-Jew (or even with a Jew wearing a pink sweater)?
It’s time that the charedi community rethink their strategy and prepare for a world of engagement and interaction — one that protects and preserves their values, but does not turn them into the bumbling dolts and dorks that they have become. The Internet Asifa could have said “like it or not, we live in a world of transparency — so let’s figure out how to make a kiddush Hashem out of it.” Sadly, God gives us the gedolim we deserve. I think we need to figure out how to deserve better.
We are a Light Unto the Nations. Just sometimes it’s a blinding light shining right into their f-ing eyes.
Lubavitchers do a relatively good job of talking to others. They do an objectively poor job (for example, see the your tube clip that this related to the one above where a guy who is an atheist has a conversation with a lubavitcher, and it is not so good. They are probably the best ambassadors of the frum world these days. We need them to be better, and others to be at least as (awkwardly acceptably) good as they are.
FWIW, Telzers can’t become Lubavitch, we can’t allow our hats to be crushed, they are way too precious for us.
I don’t believe for a second that “Kate the Wasp” was trying to make any sort of important or intelligent point with this video. Rather, it was something that was meant to be cute and funny but turned out to be neither, with undertones of “Look at those funny looking Jews!”
Perhaps if she had actually wanted to engage meaningfully with that community, she could have done some research to find better ways to do it other than randomly approaching people on Shabbos.
Read her blog — yes, she was doing this to make fun. It worked. Had everyone said kindly “Today is a day we don’t do videos, sorry, please come by tomorrow, I’m sure someone will be glad to talk to you on camera then.” — they would have nothing to show.
Suggestion: read Strangers and Neighbors: What I Have Learned About Christianity by Living Among Orthodox Jews by Maria Poggi Johnson (find it on Amazon) to see an interesting case of a kiddush hashem, where a Christian woman unknowingly moved to the yeshvish community in Scranton, PA and learns something about the community, and about her own beliefs. No it’s not a rave review, but an honest portrayal of a community that she finds inspiring, not shunning.
Actualy look at them wearing their talleisim and streimels, it was apparently filmed on shabbos, and its against halachah to be filmed on shabbos, so that’s why most were ignoring her, and the rest were just listening to pirkei avos “al tarbe sicha I’m isha”.
Let’s a guy try this and be friendly during a normal weekday.
When she wore those “short’ sleeves EVERYONE ignored her.
When she wore the sweater with longer sleeves some stopped to converse.
How would the MO Rebbitzin realize that?
There’s a big differance between an “outsider” trying to initiate a conversation and an “outsider” followed by a camera trying to initiate a conversation.
“There’s a big differance between an “outsider” trying to initiate a conversation and an “outsider” followed by a camera trying to initiate a conversation.”
Correct. There’s also the “weirdo on the sidewalk trying to stop me” syndrome. Not saying there isn’t a point to be made here, but it seems perfectly reasonable why people would not want to engage her.
I love the stare the kid crossing the street gives.
I would of ignored her also.Real world experience with people like her indicate they are trying to make fun.Her blog confirmed it. Just last week
I was stopped in Lakewood by a similar WASPY looking couple. I exchanged pleasantries with them .The conversation started with a simple hello so I put my growing wariness aside and gave them the benefit of the doubt until the male said in a very condescending and sneering way “Where do you get your hat from.I also want to wear one…”
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