A guest post by Philo originally posted on Dov Bear
Rabbi Shmuel Auerbach has come out strongly against the decision of Israel’s supreme court to strike down the Tal law (which allowed Yeshiva students to avoid army duty.)
He declared that the decision was a
“terrible gzeira that strikes a blow at the heart of Judaism… a gzeira that uproots religion.”
Yes, it goes against every bit of Judaism.
After all, in ancient times no men fought in Shaul, David, & Shlomo’s armies. They sat and pretended to learn instead and the Davidic dynasty never reigned.
No one fought against Amalek when they attacked. They hung out smoking outside the mishkan. Our ancestors were all killed in the desert. We Jews are obviously are a figment of someone’s imagination.
No one fought against the Pelishtim. They were all too busy spitting on little girls who were just trying to watch their fathers’ sheep. The Pelishtim then overran the cities of Judea and established the ancient grand empire of Philistinia.
No one fought alongside Judah Maccabee. They just sat around playing dreidel, claiming that such play was really what protected Bnei Yisrael. That’s why today, instead of lighting something called a chanukiyah, we honor the gods with the winter holiday of Brumalia.
Yup – fighting to protect your people? TOTALLY not Jewish!
Find more about Tal Law on 4torah.com
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Maybe Auerbach didn’t get to the part in the Pirkei Avot about combining Torah study with an occupation lest you succumb to sin; turns out the ones whining about having to study Torah all day and not work are spitting on 8 year old girls and comitting welfare fraud. These people have made the shtetl their idol.
Oh yeah, Aurbach is really qed.
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Uh, no offense, but Mah inyan Shmittah im Har Sinai? Good topic, for sure. But did I miss a connection here?
What…?
Translation needed? It’s a common Hebrew phrase that is used similarly to the American question, “But what does this have to do with the price of tea in China?”
PLEASE STAY TRUE TO YOUR WORDS ULTRA-ORTHODOX and PUT YOUR LIFE ON THE LINE AND JUST DISAPPEAR AND IN DOING SO OUR TAXES WILL DROP AND WE CAN SEE OUR TAX SHEKELS BE GOING TO GOOD USE!
I can only imagine frummy boot camp:
OK — I want all of you to do 20 Hagbaas. In and up, lift and separate, turn and turn. Down and again…
Now 5 minutes of shulgging kopores followed by 5 minutes of klapping hoshanos.
Put on the right boot, not put on the left boot, now tie the left boot..
Shake the lullav left, now shake the lullav right…
BTW: There is nothing hotter than a chayelet. Those girls in their uniforms, with the guns, hair pulled back. They make me melt.
You’re not the only one. I wrote this post http://yeshivaforum.wordpress.com/2011/11/15/israel-land-of-the-tough-home-of-the-crazy-in-a-good-way/ a while back and its still one of my most read posts bec I included a couple of pictures of hot female soldiers.
There is nothing hotter than a chayelet.
I remember thinking that when I was young enough to date them. Now I’m too old and besides, my wife is way hotter.
But in theory? You’re very right. Yowza.
“Now I’m too old and besides, my wife is way hotter.”
You can buy the uniforms and fake or real guns.
Where did you get those pictures?
I dont remember offhand, but i put the link at the bottom of that post.
Hesh,
I appreciate the reposting. But since it was posted first on my own blog, can you add a link to there? Hey, we all want blog traffic
http://evolvingjew.wordpress.com/2012/02/24/fighting-to-protect-your-country-is-against-the-torah/
As I said before, cowardly, disgusting parasites. They sit fat and happy letting better men and women protect their lives. Every bite of food they take is stolen from the mouths of less “holy” people who are willing to work for a living. All they can do is regurgitate commentaries on commentaries on Bronze Age legal documents, breed like rabbits and pat themselves on the back for being the reason the world exists.
If that’s “toireh” the anti-semites are absolutely right.
While I believe that most Ultra-Orthodox men should be drafted into the IDF, people should understand a few things. First of all, there have always, even under Joshua David, etc., men who studied. In fact it was a third of jewish males. They were studying and learning for the sake of the Jewish people. People should understand that. Secondly, most Americans have this idea that everyone “fights” in IDF. Just like any other army, most people do logistics, repair, computer work, etc. Its not as simple as most of you are making it out to be. Life in the army is not so religious and the IDF could do a better job of being accommodating to those trying to hold themselves to a very high level
I agree. But maybe this law will be an impetus for charedim to come to the bargaining table though and work out a better arrangement.
Yuuuuup!
This post is plain stupid, the wars fought by jews years ago were men only armies and all kept the Torah. While today even the Datim who consider it a Mitzvah to join the army, are having second thoughts. They are forced to fight in mixed units and for example are punished if they leave when female singers perform. The israeli army does not want then in the army as frum soldiers. They want them to join the army and drop their religion!
If this is the case, then the haredim should propose the establishment of frum units and an alternative national service program. It’s not about forcing people into military service out of spite, but rather, a more equitable sharing of burden. At some point haredi leaders will have to acknowledge that having 99% of their community’s young men avoid service is neither fair nor practical. I think they will eventually, so let’s all try to remain civil about it.
As they say “There are no frummies in the foxholes”. Wait, no, that was atheists. Oh, that’s why the frummies don’t want to go to the army. It’s not the hot chayalot chicks — it’s all the atheists they’d encounter.
PS. Here’s a weblink that will keep my territories occupied for the afternoon, (piece it together since I don’t want the comment to be filtered): www [dot] yeeeeee [dot] com/2008/10/27/beautiful-israeli-women-soldiers-206-pics/
Some of those pictures should be outlawed. Yowzers.
I get the chayalot every day on base.