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Top 10 reasons to get kicked out of yeshiva

My life has really been blessed by the Lord, who would have known that going to a reject yeshiva would have provided me with the ideas for so much of my writing. My yeshiva was like the outlet mall that sold irregulars for the chofetz chaim system, we were the last command post before the klids hit the streets, usually they came from WITS, but we even got main branch rejects and naturally everyone had their story as to why they were kicked out. It happened to be that Rochester was the most modern of the branches and therefore getting kicked out was much harder than other places, but still kidfs got kicked out, heck I was thrown out of the dorm in my senior year and was forced to live by a rabbis house which turned out to be one of the best things that ever happened to me.

Top 10 reasons to get kicked out of yeshiva:

Movies: Having grown up with a TV in the house and in a place where everyone went to the movies, I never saw what the big deal was about going to the movies. Not only did the yeshiva make a big deal about going to the movies (possibly because they were fun – they did their darndest to suck the fun out of being a kid) the kids themselves made an even bigger deal about sneaking off to the movies. I can remember mussar being pounded into me about the evil kids who not only went to the movies, but dragged their friends with them causing them to sin. I was never smart enough to ask if movies were halachically assur (they can’t be, because you can’t go to a movie in the 3 weeks, kal vachomer they are muttar all year) So it depends what the situation was, but if you were a half tuition paying dude who lied to the dorm councilor and brought your friends with you, chances were slim you would survive the dorm councilors interrogation. I never understood the logic of throwing a kid out, causing him to go off the derech and wander the streets of Brooklyn or Woodbourne because they went to a movie, but yeshivas throughout the land will throw you out for going.

Drugs: In the mid 90’s the yeshiva discovered that frum kids also wanted to get high, so they started drug testing, this was about the same time the frum community decided they needed a new crisis and so they called on the kids at risk to form a new crisis. These kids not only wore different yarmulkes than their families hashkafa, they also enjoyed illicit behavior like girls and drugs. Drugs were never tolerated in my yeshiva, but I heard that in Niveh and Ner Jake that was their method of rehab, frum the kids out and then save their hearts.

Porn: I used to be embarrassed to buy porn, but yeshiva taught me how to act like I was cool and collected. Not technically the yeshiva, but still the students and I bet you the kids at a modern orthodox school wouldn’t have taught me how to buy porn – although they may have taught me how to french kiss which np yeshiva guy ever taught me. Like clockwork, every room search would bring in loads of porn and someone would likely be on their way home. Mind you, the yeshiva considered swimsuit editions and maxim magazine to be on the same madreiga as Juggs and Barely Legal which made no sense to me. I was thrown out of the dorm for selling a bunch of maxim magazines to some dude who was caught with them in his freezer – hence he was known as freezer boy.

Girls: I wonder if the gay marriage movement may have scared yeshivas into allowing their bochrim to communicate with girls? Despite the fact that Rochester had its fair share of gay students, we weren’t allowed to communicate with girls. If we received a letter (Amazing to think that I went to school before the internet became the primary form of communication between the sexes – it was rough to speak with some girl you met on pesach on the phone so we sent letters) from someone with girly handwriting, we were called in front of the rosh yeshiva so he could read it to us so he could publicly embarrass us, but if you snuck a girl into the dorm or were caught in the act (talking on a street corner) then it may have assured your demise. In other yeshivas, merely lifting your eyes from the sidewalk may constitute pritzus invitations. I’ve always heard those urban legends of the rosh yeshivas daughter hooking up with dudes, but those have yet to be confirmed – that would be worth being thrown out of the yeshiva.

Drinking: In many yeshivas drinking is assur until you get to beis medrish, ironic because the beis mderish guys are usually 17 or 18 when they first abandon secular studies for a life of welfare state supported talmudic legislative debates, nevertheless drinking will get you kicked out of yeshiva. Although it seems you are cool if you happened to be drinking at a shalom zachor or another mitzvah, it’s not that yeshivas care about the law, they care about the law catching up with them.

Smoking: I’m not sure what other yeshivas do, but yeshiva guys are such addicts that they would have a crisis on their hands if they started kicking everyone in Rochester out for smoking. Not only was smoking cool, the rosh yeshiva used to smoke so that it was in our mesorah to smoke. In later years the yeshiva started doing testing for smoking and then would then impose a kenas for smoking – I’m sure yeshivas kick people out for smoking.

Contraband: During routine searches or random room searches, any number of items may be found, ranging from newspapers to CD’s, iPods, laptops and microwaves (lots of yeshivas are scared of the fire inspectors) I have heard that many yeshivas do not allow radios, secular books or any type of phone. I have no idea how it is now, when I was in yeshiva no one had phones or laptops, we used the pay phone to call home collect or with a calling card.

Eating Cheeseburgers: I figure since they basically equated the worst things you can do to eating cheeseburgers they were liable to kick you out for such a transgression, whether or not any yeshiva guys ever ate cheeseburgers and were thrown out for it is another story. I’;m sure guys have been caught eating treife and were kicked out of yeshivas for it.

Breaking shabbos: I actually used to break shabbos when I was in yeshiva, of course I had no idea that carrying on shabbos was akin to driving in a car or lighting a fire, so I used to go to these baseball card trade shows on shabbos with a few buddies and we would carry our cards and make trades, ironically that was also assur. I’m sure we would have been kicked out for it.

Fighting: There were lots of fights, ironically a lot of them were the sephardic kids who thought they were gangsters, either way, fighting was somewhat tolerated because it’s natural for kids who are pissed off at the system to fight, but I’m sure other yeshivas don’t tolerate it, unless you pay full tuition and that’s for another post.

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  • Ken August 2, 2011, 8:01 AM

    You forgot one: luck. πŸ™‚

  • OfftheDwannaB August 2, 2011, 8:58 AM

    In a yeshivish place you can also get “asked not to come back” for:
    Colored shirts.
    Lighter colored suits
    Smoking without giving the yeshiva a donation
    Blowing your roommates (ok I’ve never seen anyone actually caught for this)

    • israeli ffb October 2, 2011, 5:55 AM

      No they don’t throw you out for being gay their were 3 gay guys in my yeshiva and sadly I once walked in on them

      • Dan October 2, 2011, 10:12 AM

        On all three?

        • israeli ffb October 2, 2011, 12:29 PM

          No just two of them

          • shofar October 16, 2011, 2:19 AM

            kicke them out !

            • Kate October 17, 2011, 8:58 AM

              Not all of them

  • Lirehagi August 2, 2011, 9:07 AM

    Rosh yeshivas’ daughters COULD get away with it, since they’ve got yichus, but I don’t know any rosh yeshivas’ daughters- my friends and I are markedly plebian. Although there are girls from rich families with no yichus who also do- their money acts as an eraser for them- and I do know these people personally. It probably isn’t an urban myth sometime that I’m not aware of, but it IS the kind of thing people fantasize about, it kills 2 birds with 1 stone. it’s like revenge on the kid’s parent (your rosh yeshiva), plus you have some fun too.

    Problem is that all the rosh yeshivas and principals are so old, only their grandchildren are eligible…doesn’t pack the same punch

    • Moty August 2, 2011, 9:19 PM

      When I was in 9th grade (Ironically, in the yeshiva Heshy is talking about), there was a Senior who *allegedly* hooked up with the principal’s daughter. She was not “too old”. Ended up being major stories for most of my HS years until she got engaged at the ripe old age of 16.

      • Lirehagi August 3, 2011, 9:35 AM

        Ok, you win, Youre in my generation and it happened to someone you knew. Still, Rochester isn’t BK, where the one eligible Principal’s kid left that I know of is meanandugly. Most of the principals here are 50+, cuts down on eligible age-appropriate kin.

        Ripe old age of 16…to that guy? To some guy who was also in his teens? This stuff is too crazy to be made up (shaking head).

        • Moty August 3, 2011, 10:41 AM

          No a diff guy. But there were always whispers. The assistant principal actually joked that he was givng 5:2 odds that it was a shotgun wedding. Everyone was surprised it wasn’t but good for them.
          Awkward part was before she got married whenever she came to town, mysteriously everyone in yeshiva couldn’t leave, but when she got married, their first shabbos visiting back, I got invited over for lunch and it was just weird being there with them.

          • Lirehagi August 3, 2011, 3:52 PM

            And I thought I had it difficult when my friend invited me over while she was in a fight with her bf. Isn’t this why guys have chavrusas shabbos afternoon- to flee the meal?

            How *mysterious*, LOL πŸ˜‰

            • Moty August 3, 2011, 4:42 PM

              Yeah…I wasn’t exactly the chavrusa type in HS…Not that I was terribly bad or anything, but those were the real nerds, for the most part.

              • Lirehagi August 3, 2011, 6:11 PM

                Moty, the Little White Lie.
                Little White Lie, Moty

                chavrusa- literally means partner- uses of partner- partner in crime/killing time/someone you run to when fleeing Akwardness/etc…

                I’ve known people who use the term this way, but expressions need time to take off, probably hasn’t left BK yet

                • Moty August 3, 2011, 9:12 PM

                  If you skim that (like I did), it looks really bad “crime/killing/someone you run to when fleeing”

                  I’m very out of the loop. Not a big Brooklyn lover.

                  • Lirehagi August 4, 2011, 7:32 PM

                    NO ONE wants to live here (or can), that’s why they all marry and move out. I can’t help having a pair of ears and living here- I aspire to be out of it someday too, asap

          • A. Nuran August 4, 2011, 9:44 AM

            “It was widely known though rarely mentioned that an eager young bride could accomplish in seven months or less what takes nine for cow or countess”

    • Mike August 3, 2011, 7:31 AM

      Ok in my yeshiva which was much ‘frummer’ then Rochester, one of the guys who often ate by the the Rosh Yeshiva had hooked up with his daughter for a long time. The Rosh Yeshiva did eventually find out and kicked the guy out, the guy later got married and got divorced and many of the students attribute that divorce to the rosh yeshiva cursing the guy… (who the heck knows)
      Funny thing is the rosh yeshivas daughter ended up marrying a guy from the yeshiva who probably would have never married such a ‘yichus’ girl unless this whole story had taken place. I’m sure many till today who dont know the full story are wondering what the hell is this guy doing married to her…

      • Lirehagi August 3, 2011, 9:45 AM

        Seriously? Does what a person does in their teenaged years REALLY matter once you hit 30? Why couldn’t they have just fallen in love or something like that? Anyone still speculating on this is a LOSER, IMHO

        • Mike August 3, 2011, 9:59 AM

          Well she married not very long after the whole story, so it matter as to whom she ended up marrying.
          People are not actively ‘speculating’ why she married this guy, it just sticks out in their heads how did such a loser end up married to her, while all the other roshes kids married people of ‘higher stature’.
          Oh and if you do f up in your teenage years, sadly bad decisions could haunt you for the rest of your life, it really does suck.

          • Lirehagi August 3, 2011, 10:06 AM

            Ok, flunking out of hs, having a baby, or getting addicted to drugs alcohol could f*ck up your life.

            Aside from that, does it really matter though? If you’re 30 and your wife is 27, you’re not really going to care about some boyfriend she had when she was 16- it was a long time ago, before she knew you and everything. Nor does it make a difference which yeshiva/ girls school you went to as long as you got your diploma at the end- what you do afterwards- what college you go to/ if you go to college makes a bigger difference

        • Seriously?? August 3, 2011, 10:14 AM

          I was called…

          Abuse can stay with someone for their whole life. So does heavy drinking or drug use… or any number of things that do not entirely reverse.

        • Former Detroiter August 7, 2011, 6:54 AM

          she ruined her shidduch stock market value forever. what can you do? It’s a disgusting world in frumland today, I’m sad to say.

  • WACKY MAC & CHOCOLATE PIZZA August 2, 2011, 9:55 AM

    You wrote,
    …. but I’m sure other yeshivas don’t tolerate it, unless you pay full tuition and that’s for another post.”

    Looking forward to your post.

  • Telz Angel August 2, 2011, 11:30 AM

    every time I meet someone from the Rochester Yeshiva, I ask “so what Yeshiva were you kicked out of before you got here?” And they always have an answer.

    • Moty August 2, 2011, 9:20 PM

      I honestly believe Heshy and I are the only two people to ever go wire to wire in Rochester.

      • Heshy Fried August 2, 2011, 9:59 PM

        Not only did I last the whole time, but I got left back in ninth grade and still never graduated, though I walked down the aisle and collected my empty envelope from Irv Cohen.

        • Moty August 2, 2011, 10:06 PM

          I still don’t know if I officially graduated or not. I feel like they would have told me if I didn’t, but then again, I never got a diploma and I think I missed credits. Who knows.

          • Lirehagi August 3, 2011, 3:56 PM

            They might not tell you, my school tries to get us to pay attn to our grades by telling us about a woman who needed a copy of her diploma for some reason…to make a long story short, she’d never graduated, and she was in her 40’s, looking for a job for the first time.

            Calling them couldn’t hurt…

            • Moty August 3, 2011, 4:43 PM

              I haven’t needed it to be honest. If I ever do, I will.

    • Aaron October 28, 2011, 1:01 PM

      I went to Rochester and Telz… Probably the only person alive who did that! And I voluntarily left both, though Telz probably would have booted me eventually if I didn’t leave. Fortunately, I found a better school after Rochester, that actually wasn’t repressive.

    • Anonymous June 3, 2013, 1:36 PM

      Not me

  • Telz Angel August 2, 2011, 11:37 AM

    Kids in Telz were kicked out for going to movies. One kid was kicked out for grabbing another kid “below the belt” during a fight. Reading a secular fiction book, owning a radio, or getting caught off campus at a bar or baseball game would usually result in a stiff fine, then eventually a boot.

    Somehow they never knew that every Friday we’d trek to the mall to watch General Hospital on the TVs that were set up in the department stores. We should have been kicked out for being obsessed with Luke and Laura Spencer’s epic romance.

    • talking stam August 2, 2011, 6:53 PM

      so…. during fights its not allowed?

      • Telz Angel August 2, 2011, 7:36 PM

        well, the problem was that it was in front of other kids. The Telzer minhag is that the rub-and-tug should only take place between roommates, and only when no one else is watching.

        but you make a good point there.

  • giggling August 2, 2011, 12:20 PM

    “My yeshiva was like the outlet mall that sold irregulars for the chofetz chaim system”
    thank you for the funny mental image πŸ™‚

  • Yossi August 2, 2011, 1:35 PM

    I went to public school. You had to kill somebody to get kicked out.

    • Ben Kaye August 2, 2011, 7:45 PM

      Haha, that remind me of my friend Yossi, who got kicked out of my school. (For talking to girls- worth it, she was hot)

      Anyway when he went to public school, the first day someone was showing him around and said, “not gonna lie kid, but your the only white guy in this school – you will get beaten up and your shit will get stolen.”
      To make things worse, he had to be in a special class with other people who got kicked out of other schools. This is how that class went:
      “I burnt down my school.”
      “I raped my teacher.”
      “I raped my teacher – then killed her.”
      What did you do? “I talked to a girl.”

  • A. Nuran August 2, 2011, 5:26 PM

    Ye gawds, I’ve known Cistercian monks with fewer restrictions.

  • Anonymous August 2, 2011, 7:00 PM

    Comment three biatches.

    • Moty August 2, 2011, 9:21 PM

      Not even remotely close, biatch.

  • zalmie August 2, 2011, 7:48 PM

    the best thing about getting kicked out of yeshivah for me was public school. in yeshiva, i was constantly told that i would never survive public school, but i was treated much better there, got better grades, and was never bullied. much better than yeshivah.

    • Anonymous August 2, 2011, 9:22 PM

      It’s both sad that you had a much better experience in public school, and beautiful that you found a place that respected you and met your needs. Glad you found it, but it’s unfortunate the Yeshiva system basically failed you.

    • musicluver August 3, 2011, 12:43 AM

      Wow! Which public school was this?!

    • Lirehagi August 3, 2011, 10:00 AM

      I went to ps for 2 years, in middle school. I was told I wouldn’t survive either. I also got better grades and got bullied less too, and we definitely went to different schools.

      The things I really liked better about public school was that what you did there stayed there and didn’t interfere with the rest of life- your teachers left you alone if you didn’t fail or seemed psychologically normal. Then there was the whole “freedom of expression” thing. Learning that boys are normal people (as opposed to strange aliens you must marry in order to have kids to keep the Jewish people going, but if you could do thy without them, they’d be the next big ban) was also a plus. Teachers were teachers because they wanted to teach and were hired on merit.

      Granted, this was a nerd school, so it may not be like this everywhere, and there were a few downsides, but it was overall better

  • Ohana August 2, 2011, 8:12 PM

    Nowadays they have rabbis searching facebook for kids in tiger community. Getting caught on fb can also reward you with the royal boot.

    • Lirehagi August 2, 2011, 8:22 PM

      Any idiot who gets caught deserves it for not being better at technology than older people πŸ˜›

      some weird dude I had 1 mutual friend with tried to friend me. My friend said he was a rabbi with 3 kids. I decided he was either some school’s online bounty hunter or a creep and didn’t friend him. Then I warned everyone who needed warning. No way is someone going to be able to catch anyone with half a brain or decent privacy settings

  • ghottistyx August 2, 2011, 8:23 PM

    Other reject Yeshivos:
    Hamilton (now defucnt)
    Priority 1
    Chanoch Le’Naar
    MTA was, but that changed in

    • ghottistyx August 2, 2011, 8:25 PM

      (continued) 1999ish after YU threatened to drop them.
      some would say MTJ

      • Anonymous August 2, 2011, 9:18 PM

        hey f u man I went to MTJ for 10 years and I ain’t no reject! Well, maybe a little bit. But MTJ isn’t a classic reject yeshiva, especially not the elementary and middle schools. As you get higher up in the high school and the bais, it becomes more so. Also, it’s wayyyyy better now than it was 15 or 20 years ago- they hired a hanhala who actually adheres to public/state codes of secular studies and is meticulous about good educational practices, so the student body takes the school much more seriously than it did in the past. MTJ in da USA bay-bay!

        • ghottistyx August 6, 2011, 5:04 PM

          Mea Culpa. The few guys I knew in MTJ back in the day (15-20 years ago) were rejects. I had heard that it was accepting of them, but my apologies if I wrongly branded it as a “reject yeshiva”. But many of the ones I mentioned above were the ones that my friends who were thrown out of other yeshivot went to.

          MTA and JEC (currently RTMA) both cleaned themselves up around the late ’90s. Sometime around my Junior year of HS (like 1997), they basically asked a whole slew of kids (nicely) to leave or they would be expelled by the new hanhallah. It was kind of a “listen, we know you’re getting high and stuff, we’re about to do a whole crackdown, so leave before we find out for sure…”

          MTA’s story is a bit more dramatic. Basically, YU was ready to dump them as their high school. They were in danger of being shut down altogether. As part of a plea bargain, YU took MTA back on the condition that they fire their current principal and that Rav Yitzchok Cohen (who lead the protest against YU dropping them) be “fired” from MTA (but rehired as a Rosh HaYeshiva in YU…). One of the first things the new Hanhallah did was simply stop accepting those students who would have been in the “garbage shiurim”, and thus by the time I got to YU in 2000, most of the old thugs who used to go to MTA had either graduated or been expelled for something else.

      • kissmeimshomer August 2, 2011, 11:39 PM

        my dad once taught in OTI…

  • Moty August 2, 2011, 9:23 PM

    In defense of Rochester and the post to come: I was a no tuition kid and I got away with tons. Just saying. Credit where due.

    • Heshy Fried August 2, 2011, 10:03 PM

      Yes but you from the helige scranton so somewhere along the way one of your ancestors may have been chummy with those Harris boys.

      • Moty August 2, 2011, 10:07 PM

        That excuse only worked from 11th grade on. Didn’t save me for 9th and 10th grade in Allentown.

        • Evan Ezer June 3, 2013, 7:17 PM

          Woah. I don’t hear of many frum Jews from Atown. You went to public school there?

  • Anonymous August 2, 2011, 10:52 PM

    I have a friend who was being contacted by a Rosh Yeshiva’s daughter. She would steal/borrow her father’s phone as she didn’t have her own. πŸ™‚

    • Lirehagi August 3, 2011, 10:09 AM

      Did she change the caller ID to let him know if it was her bs her dad? It’s easy, google it

  • kissmeimshomer August 2, 2011, 11:40 PM

    haha! “shit, the rosh is calling! Ya, hello? Oh hey babe! Yea sure cmon over…”

    • Ben Kaye August 3, 2011, 10:48 PM

      That’s my biggest yeshivah fantasy laid out right there – although in my defense there was this girl who i was friendly with who waas friends with the rabbis daughter.
      We’d put them on speaker phone, play Pink Floyd (she wad big into Animals) turn on my black light, light incense, and pretend we were normal dudes hanging out with chicks.

  • Ezzie_G August 3, 2011, 1:00 AM

    you forgot spying on the college kids across the street with a telescope. one member of the hanhala has about 15 or 20 mini telescopes that were confiscated during room sweeps…

  • Seriously?? August 3, 2011, 5:42 AM

    I never went to Yeshivah. Couldn’t face it.

  • Bsamim Smoker August 3, 2011, 8:39 AM

    “Porn: I used to be embarrassed to buy porn”,you still should be, considering you can get it on the internet for free

  • yaakove August 3, 2011, 9:14 AM

    I was waiting for someone to mention Rudinskys.. Went there in the late 90’s and had a great time, but it seemed like every week the class size changed

  • Kate August 3, 2011, 2:33 PM

    Some kids like to watch porn movies. I never smoked ,drug never ,thank you Lord.

  • PostFFB August 3, 2011, 2:35 PM

    Friends brother got kicked out of skokie yeshiva for shtupping the rosh’s daughter

  • uroch August 7, 2011, 6:49 AM

    Hey, just wanted to say I go to college in rochester and your yeshiva was so close to 4 college campuses, I’m surprised no one was caught sneaking out to go to frat parties or some nonsense, because it would have been very easy to do because college boys love corrupting little yeshiva boys. Other yeshivas are in the middle of nowhere it’s ironic that they pick the dropout yeshiva to be in the middle of a college city.

  • AngryChick August 10, 2011, 8:34 AM

    I got kicked out of sem for having an eating disorder. Apparently when it comes to problems such as a minor identity crisis, they can handle it and they’re “there for you and want to help ” blah blah blah. but the second a real problem came up, they shoved it under the rug. I was in sem for 7 days. when i went home for rosh hashana, they called and told me not to come back. I guess i was too much to handle, but that principal effin broke my heart.

    • OfftheDwannab August 10, 2011, 5:09 PM

      It must have been hard to go through that. πŸ™

      • AngryChick August 11, 2011, 5:40 AM

        yeah. it was awful. My friends said i was a shadow of myself for weeks after that! and then of course, my parents start the whole “u’ll never get a shidduch, what will people think” crap. So sick of ppl judging!

  • beendownthatroad September 7, 2011, 4:05 PM

    to be fair rudinski has cleand itself up big time but you forgot eatontown ,
    blobstein’s ( no longer around) & adelphia

  • Freezer Boy September 27, 2011, 2:03 PM

    Hey, Hesh, didnt realize i knew you personally until i read this one. I was freezer boy, in the room across from you in Rochester.

  • Nathan July 8, 2012, 5:41 AM

    Heshy Fried was expelled from several yeshivot.

  • tussman August 10, 2012, 1:18 AM

    I hate to be contrarian here, but I went to Rochester Bais Medrash and it was an excellent yeshiva. Even the HS was solid – okay, at one point they let in a few guys they shouldn’t have, but then they wised up and chucked them. I heard these days they’ve gotten very serious in the HS. My memories from my days are very positive. Also, about MTJ HS – has a very good reputation now. People love the menahel now, Rabbi Katz

  • farmimplement August 10, 2012, 1:41 AM

    whoa i thouht it was just me? when i went to rochester thw boys were real holy. a buncj of them are shul rabbis or rabbeeim or even rosh yeshivas

  • no you August 20, 2012, 1:24 AM

    Someone made the point that it’s unfair to hold a 30 yr. old fully responsible for what he did at 16. But its fair to bad mouth ayeshiva for something some boy did 15 years ago? This list is awful. much of it was never true, and even when it was, tthose yeshivos are very different now. i am personally familiar with some of those yeshivos as they are today. thi motzee shem ra is not a joke. it could destroy reputations of the yehivos and the boyswho currenty go there. pls stop thismotzee shem ra now.

    • Anonymous June 3, 2013, 1:55 PM

      The reputation for Rochester is already destroyed granted they are trying to make it more frum but thats never gonna happen

  • e June 3, 2013, 3:10 PM

    I guess I wasn’t so bad. Somehow I managed to get kicked out of 14 yeshivas by the time I was bar mitzvahed. I honestly spent more time in the principals office than I did in the class room and do not recall a single thing from my entire yeshiva education. Half the time I didn’t even do anything wrong, I was just the one standing when the music stopped (when the teacher turned around).

    Also, I’m fairly certain the other half of the time the Rabbi or Principal just wanted another handout which my father happily gave so they would keep me.

    After my bar mitzvah I went to public school, life got better, I went out on dates, had girlfriends, went to movies with friends or girls, baseball games, even school trips for the weekend. I actually got a real education, left high school just after turning 16 and went straight to college.

    I can’t tell you how many of my former Yeshiva classmates can barely comprehend high school, or even middle school English or math, let alone science or history. And speaking to a chick, fuhgettaboutit, they’d piss themselves.

    The last yeshiva to kick me out was due to a jealous student making up lies about me.

    10 years later I ended up getting together with his sister and later on another girl who he ended up marrying. Same for the daughter(s) of the Rabbi\principal of that same Yeshiva. I wonder if he knows…..

  • yitz June 3, 2013, 5:49 PM

    So these things are enough to get u kicked out….. if your caught. wen i was in ninth grade, i had sex with one of the Rabbaims daughters during the shabbos sudah….
    on three sepreat ocations…. and noone found out till this day. lol

  • Anonymous June 6, 2013, 7:26 AM

    Thank god I never got kicked out of Rochester and had all my hs yrs here but some members of the faculty should be fired dew to the lack if respect they have on some kids who don’t pay fully or just not smart enough

  • Robert M June 13, 2013, 9:29 AM

    I had a classmate who paid for college by pulling down mezuzahs, selling the klaf, and then offering to sell the newly mezuzahless yeshiva some new klaf at a reduced rate. The source of his cheap klaf-he wrote it himself! His excuse-these people behave in a way that dishonors the Jewish people, so who are they kidding by putting a mezuzah on their door?

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