My response to Rabbi Steven Pruzansky’s article on Orthopraxy

There’s been a lot of talk in the Jewish Blogging world about the following article written by Rabbi Steven Pruzansky in this past weeks Jewish Press. I have copied and pasted the article here with my responses to each of paragraphs I feel there needs to be a response. If you haven’t read Scwartzies article on the very same subject I would suggest you do.

A few months ago, football’s New York Jets willingly accommodated Jewish fans by moving their home opener from the evening to the early afternoon of the same day. That evening – Yom Kippur – would have presumably found thousands of the Jets faithful in synagogue and not at the Meadowlands or glued to their television sets.

My old dorm councilor and rebbe was a big Jets fan, he dressed in their colors on purim and was pretty much addicted to sports, I am sure he was pumped.

This altruistic act – moving the game out of prime time – speaks volumes about the Jets’ sensitivity to Jewish sensibilities (perhaps it even propelled them to a successful season), to the influence of politicians and civic leaders to cause a commotion over trivialities, and to our sense of acceptance in general society.

I seriously doubt it had anything to do with sensitivity to Jews, don’t you know it’s all about the bottom line. Happens to be I think it’s a huge chillul hashem to change a game just because of the Jews, that probably pissed a whole ton of people off who had plans and suddenly the game is changed.

From their perspective, it was a most decent and generous act. From our perspective, though, it is less salutary, and represented a triumph of Orthopraxy over Orthodoxy.

Orthopraxy on wikipedia.

While Orthodoxy literally means “correct belief” but in actuality encompasses an entire range of thought and behavior that is regulated by Torah, Orthopraxy (“correct action”) is much more limited in scope, requiring only the adherence to certain behavioral norms without any semblance of philosophical commitment to the system from which such behavioral norms emerged.

He is trying to say people that are socially orthodox, but he has to prove his mastery of Judaic philosophy.

Obviously, some of the obsession with sports is nothing less than silliness; who wins or loses – or even plays – does not matter at all in the real world, and sports and other forms of entertainment are just diversions from the more significant endeavors in which we are engaged.

I wonder if he knows that Micheal Moore says exactly the same thing. Did he just say other forms of entertainment? Like reading a newspaper possibly? I wonder if he realizes he is writing for a newspaper? Aren’t there a whole slew of rabbonom that say sports and other forms of entertainment are good so you don’t get burnt out on heavenly endeavors?

What happens, then, when the diversions become the essence, or at least a critical component, of a person’s life – so much so that one’s thoughts on Yom Kippur might have otherwise been on the game and not on life, family, health, sustenance and the fate of the world?

I don’t know about you but on Yom Kippur I am wondering if I am going to do by fire or strangulation. I also think about boiling in my own wasted sperms and for some reason I have this nervous smirk on my face when I look around and wonder if everyone clopping their chests is thinking about how fun those sins were.  Sure I’m thinking of riding my bike, eating some bagels and sitting down to a blog session – but my mind is occupied by sins and repentance.

That is a sad commentary on the spiritual state of some of our fellow Jews, and begs the question: Is it any less contemptible to spend three hours on erev Yom Kippur fascinated by grown men pounding each other in pursuit of moving an oval-shaped pigskin across a goal line than it would be to do the same on Yom Kippur night?

Not Really.

The first time I read this I saw “grown men pounding each other” and burst out laughing. I wonder if this guy realizes that there is something called Tivo, and that erev Yom Kippur is a pretty long day, all you really have to do is give tzedaka, get your crocs out of the closet and pound your face with brisket and soup. As I recall, I usually spend erev yom kippur dreading yom kippur, so I think a game might be a good thing to lighten the mood.

The only difference is that there would be no technical violation of the rules of Judaism to so while away one’s time on erev Yom Kippur. Nonetheless, the broader and more crucial questions are: Where was the person’s head, and heart, at that most solemn time? Where were his thoughts? Were they on repentance and introspection – a matter of the soul? Or were they just on weathering the impending 25-hour fast – a matter of the body?

You can tell this guy is a real Misnaged!

The answer is clear, as it was in Isaiah’s time when he decried the insincerity of fasting without repentance, of the tendency of some Jews to underscore some deeds and not others because none was internalized as the will of Hashem or as divine service:

“They pretend to seek Me every day, they pretend to desire knowledge of My ways . they inquire of Me about righteous laws, as if they desire the nearness of God” (Isaiah 58:2).

The Orthoprax are an informal, incognito group of unknown size and scope who, for the most part, practice halachic norms but do not really believe in God (or that He chose us as the nation that would carry His moral message to mankind) or understand what they are doing. They might not even believe in the divine origin of the Torah, but identify themselves with the Orthodox community for social, ethnic, cultural or even aesthetic reasons. We usually do not know who they are – after all, it is a matter of the heart – but we do know how and where to find them.

He is absolutely correct, the orthodox community is a very social animal. Take away the free food, random places to stay, overpriced tuition and three thousand dollar hair styles and you don’t have much left. Is there anything wrong with keeping the culture alive, what would we do if we didn’t have hot chanis, yeshivish fakers and flexidox people to make fun of?

They are the Jews who will come to shul – but barely daven. They will perfunctorily mouth a few words here and there while engaged in a persistent but likely not-very-stimulating conversation with their neighbors (people they would not talk to outside of shul for more than five minutes the rest of the week).

As Rabbi Groener of Far Rockaway says: At least they come to shul, imagine, they came to shul when they could have been doing God knows what else. I have heard quite a few chabad rabbis say exactly the same thing, this is where the chossid in me comes out – I think it’s better to come to shul and not daven than not come at all, that’s why I think they should have play groups for adults not just the kids. How cool would it be to play on gymboree plastic slides and eat animal crackers out of ziplock bags.

No wonder the Zohar (Parshat Terumah) labels people who talk in shul as atheists; they sit in the House of God but are oblivious to His presence. The words of the davening are either unfamiliar to them or do not resonate with them. Their only contribution to decorum is the occasional shushing of their children, a vulgar act of hypocrisy that, as Faranak Margolese noted in her book Off the Derech, is a major factor in turning off children to the life of Torah.

Let’s get to the root of the problem, why do you think people are talking? Could it be that shul is boring and the only time a week most shuls sing is lecha dodi and it’s always half assed. If shul were cool I bet you people wouldn’t talk as much. I’m not much a shul talker because I am judging people and thinking how I can make fun of them discreetly, and when I am bored I leave shul and read old copies of OU’s Viewpoint magazine.

The Orthoprax attend shul because it is a social expectation, and their conduct in shul reflects it.

He forgot to add because there is food, booze and cool seforim to read.

They are the Jews who are nominally shomrei Shabbat – they would never drive to shul, for example – but they will look for ways to swim or play tennis or baseball on Shabbat or encourage their children to do so, or leave the television on (or have the ubiquitous housekeeper turn it on) or read business newspapers on Shabbat, or perhaps even sneak in a business phone call or two when no one is looking.

He keeps taking all the negatives. How about – there are Jews that try to walk to shul even though they play tennis and leave the TV on over shabbos.

Their children will text each in stealth (texting being the preferred method of communication even between teenagers who are sitting next to each other). Their divine service is external; if no human being sees them sin, it is as if it hasn’t happened.

Sounds like every single person I know. Please tell me you never sinned in private.

That state of affairs was well known to Rabban Yochanan ben Zakai, who admonished his disciples that “their awe of Heaven should parallel their awe of men” (Berachot 28b), the latter being more pervasive and substantial. The Orthoprax will “observe” Shabbat - they will not mow their lawns or drive to the beach – but Shabbat as a day of communion with the Creator is almost non-existent.

Oh so now we have to eat wafers to celebrate shabbos?

They are the Jews who will dress the part – as if, indeed, there is such a thing as “Jewish dress” beyond tzitzit and kippah for men and modest clothes for all. But they will conduct their business without integrity, stealing, conniving, cheating Jew and non-Jew alike, underreporting their taxes, hondling with contractors after the work is completed, stiffing their employees of their due wages – and often professing that they are acting perversely for the glory of Torah or to benefit a favored charity.

So he’s lumping the frummie fakers in with the conservadox that are trying not to drive to shul on shabbos? Man I should get this guy to write for me.

The Orthoprax will do good works, but those are socially useful and divorced from any sense of divine worship.

Wow if orthoprax Jews were a race we could totally get the ACLU on this guy

Most recently, Orthopraxy underlies such phenomena as the female clergy, the Partnership Minyanim (in which women chant portions of the davening, and a quorum of both ten men and ten women are needed to begin services), and the integration of Christians into special worship services.

Indeed, but partnership minyans never claimed to be orthodox.

These innovations blur or cross the line that defines halachic practice, and all, on some level, conflate self-worship with divine worship. All seek to make halacha “user friendly” and to render the Torah into putty that can be molded as the user desires – the Torah as akin to the American Constitution, which, Thomas Jefferson warned, could be twisted and shaped by unscrupulous judges “as an artist shapes a ball of wax.”

I am telling you this guy would have been in on burning the Rambams books. Halacha has to be user friendly, times are a changing, if we didn’t have any modern day seforim we would be able to do all the stuff we want to do on shabbos – but now halacha is user friendly.

Note how the proliferation of Orthopraxy transcends all the traditional (and artificial) divisions in Orthodox life. It compasses right wing and left wing, modern, centrist and yeshivish, haredi and non-haredi alike. And one might well contend that all the deviations listed above trample on the halacha and the sacred institutions of Jewish life, and therefore strip the “ortho” out of that “praxy” – they are not correct practices at all. But that contention is only partially true.

Wow what achdus, if only the rest of you haters will join in, maybe it will bring moshiach sooner.

There are those of us who have become quite proficient – crafty is a better word – in manipulating the sources, in finding obscure opinions that, interpreted innovatively, tend to justify precisely what we want to do. Such people no longer desire to ascertain the will of God, but rather to satisfy their own inclinations while remaining in “technical” compliance with halacha, very broadly construed. It is as if they have transformed the Almighty into a divine caddy who carries for us a bagful of clubs known as “halacha,” and they reserve the right to remove any club when they so desire, and use them any way in which they desire. Most lacking is the concept of the Jew as the servant of God.

I wish I had paid better attention in gemara shiur, I have always wanted to know the sources and not have to follow along like a sheep, but alas I can’t make a laining and need people to dictate my way of life.

The Orthoprax wish to remain part of the community, relying on general notions of tolerance and Western concepts of religion as a “private matter.” And they do remain part of the community – often integral parts of the community – but a community no longer defined by commitment to the fundamental principles of Judaism, by subservience to God, or by eternal norms and values.

So what do you supposed we do? Maybe we could bust out some Salem Witch Trial can of whoop ass on these orthpraxing Jews.

It is a social community, ethnically based and often geographically defined, but not a covenantal community. It is a community in which people perform actions that are roughly similar, but their hearts are not united. We certainly retain common enemies – Ahmadinejad is uninterested in these fine distinctions – but the nation of Israel should stand for something greater than that some evil people hate us.

Is there a value in Orthopraxy – in remaining part of a community of behavioral norms even if the philosophical commitment in lacking? Some point to a cryptic passage in the Yerushalmi, and in the Pesikta, citing, in Hashem’s name: “Would that they abandon Me and still observe My Torah!” As some explain, it is therefore better to observe the mitzvot even with a lack of faith than to observe only if fully committed. Undoubtedly, there is some merit to this – at least the individual practitioner remains tethered to the Jewish community, however tenuously. But that understanding is grievously flawed.

What about the whole concept of doing something for the wrong reasons will eventually lead you to do it for the right reasons?

You think there’s a shidduch crisis now? Get rid of the orthoprax folks and there won’t be anyone left.

Better understood, the passage (a rhetorical question) seems to be admonishing us that it is impossible to abandon God and still observe the Torah for long; we can indulge ourselves for a time, but eventually even the practice of mitzvot will wither without an internal commitment.

Or Chazal are teaching us stages of development: people may begin the observance of mitzvot without a full ideological commitment, or must continue even if such commitment occasionally wanes – but eventually commitment and practice must coalesce, and the observance of mitzvot must mature from mere deeds to the development of the complete Torah personality. If not, then our divine service remains stunted, and not a little phony.

I’m getting bored but I just have to split up these paragraphs.

Worse, our youth are very sensitive to this double game, and some become disenchanted. They internalize the corrupt idea that in Judaism externals count for everything and sincerity for nothing. Like Esav asking his father halachic questions in a fatuous attempt to demonstrate his piety, our children can learn to play the adult game just as well as we can: emptily mouth the words of tefilla, read parsha sheets at the Shabbat table while clueless to what they are reading, or internalize the idea that the most harmful aspect of sin is not the sin itself but getting caught. Once learned, that approach is not easily forgotten, until the child either finds better role models or discards his commitment entirely.

I remember when I was in high school, most kids would wait until 2 people were done with shemona esrei and then sit down. It seems that the only solution is forcing everyone into BT state. Think about it – we pull all the kids out of these shitty orthoprax yeshivas, send them to public school and then when they become orthodox because of the pintele yid they will actually be sincere.

There is a bright side to all this, or at least elements of comfort. The rise of Orthopraxy is on some level just a reflection of the human condition. The criticism applies to everyone, bar none. We are all flawed and all sinners, and the revelation of the flaws of public figures – even religious figures – is usually just a matter of time.

This is called the part of speech he can quite when the shit hits the fan and he has to take some of what he said back.

“For there is no man so wholly righteous on earth that he [always] does good and never sins” (Kohelet 7:20) – and yet we are still stunned and shaken when it happens.

According to Tanya we are all rashayim.

We must distinguish, though, between personal frailties and systemic breaches. The “righteous” sinner (an oxymoron, but bear with me) stumbles because of human nature – an inability to control his instinctual drives – but confesses his sins, admits his guilt and does not seek to rationalize his wrongdoing.

There is, however, a “wicked” sinner, as well, who protests his innocence, who claims he has been misunderstood, who defends his actions on grounds that others are doing it, or, worst of all, that what he did is not sinful at all because the halacha changed, or should change, or he found an arcane but lenient source allowing him to do what he wants to do. The former is the position in which most of us find ourselves, and which is addressed by the commandment of repentance; the latter is a systemic violation for which there is no simple rectification. It is an act of spiritual gerrymandering by the sinner who has carved out for himself exemptions from halacha.

How do we triumph over Orthopraxy and reconnect our divine service to God? We can – must – infuse our mitzvot with a recognition of their divine imperative by returning to fundamentals. We should study ourselves, and teach our children, not only “how” we do things but also “why.” We all must learn the details of the mitzvot – from Shabbat to Pesach, from kashrut to monetary integrity, from the laws of Chanukah to the laws of Tisha B’Av – but also the framework of those mitzvot, how they combine to create a faithful, moral, decent servant of Hashem.

Have you noticed that the article doesn’t really talk about belief or philosophy – it makes the assumption that all of these people believe somewhat but not enough. I went to a yeshiva and they assumed we all believed in God, Torah and the Pursuit of Mitzvos – when it reality not many people did.

We must refine our davening so that – as Chazal ruled – it is better to say less with kavanah (a concentrated focus) than more without kavanah, and lose the notion that our prayer obligation is satisfied through the daily recitation of a certain quota of words. We must restore a sense of reverence and sanctity to the shul, or stay outside until we are ready. And before performing any mitzvah, we must pronounce, figuratively if not literally, that we are “ready and prepared to fulfill the commandment of our Creator.”

Won’t argue with that one.

Kabbalat HaTorah (the acceptance of the Torah) required naaseh v’nishma – the commitment “to do” preceded the commitment “to learn.” It preceded it, but did not vitiate it. Naaseh cannot endure unless there is an ongoing nishma – and Talmud Torah must encompass not only what we should do but also what we should think and how we should feel.

The greatest of all orthodoxies – those correct beliefs that govern our lives – is, then, humility – humility that will enable us to absorb the divine values of Torah and not those of modern man, and recreate a nation of thinking, rational, wise, intelligent, good and ethical servants of God, a light unto the nations.

Amen, now lets go watch some other entertainment.

Other more serious responses to Rabbi Pruzansky’s article around the Jewish Blogsphere:

This is what Modern Orthoprax talks about a daily basis so it has to good.

Rabbi Eliyahu Fink tackles the issues and he’s a pretty smart dude.

Drew from Jewlicious also puts in his two cents.

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  • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DRosenbach Dale Rosenbach

    So after using this as fodder, I thought you’d provide some serious commentary. Is it still being edited?

    • http://www.frumsatire.net Heshy Fried

      Nah, I didn’t even want to do anything – got too many emails to ignore. Honestly – I don’t think it’s such a big deal, it was fun to respond to it and even though I was being snarky, most of what I said would have gone into a full fledged response if I really cared about his piece that much.

      • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DRosenbach Dale Rosenbach

        I think this piece was poorly focused and misguided — mussar is a poor substitute for hashkafa. But my question to you, Hesh, from your inclusion of this is the following: What is your purpose? Do you have a purpose? Is it all just fun and games? You seem to stir up some serious issues, but they are left for your audience to conclude and it tends to become a consensus of those bereft of hashkafa. There is often little serious debate — perhaps you could conclude such posts in the future with a little bit more…position-taking (that is, after a hefty dose of mockery).

        • http://www.frumsatire.net Heshy Fried

          My position wasn’t clearly stated – but it’s there. I don’t think there’s much wrong with Orthopraxy, if people are religious for the wrong reasons eventually they will sway either way – towards the right reasons or toward not being religious. I mentioned that many folks aren’t given enough of a basis of belief in the early years and if you ask the average person about his/her belief system it’s based on the “how could 600,000 people who saw the revelation at sinai be wrong?” Usually not something deeply personalized that was taught when they were of an age when they could make up their minds about whether orthodox Judaism was right for them.

          I personally don’t think that every Jew should be orthodox – I believe in the torah, Judasm, halacha, etc…but it troubles me in lots of ways – I keep trying to find answers, but I don’t believe that orthodox Judaism works for everyone while the author thinks it’s orthodoxy or the highway.

          I understand my stances weren’t concrete and you are correct I should take more of a stance – but I guess this comment gives you my stance. Mussar is a good tool and can be used for positive things – but Rabbi Pruzansky comes off as a self righteous a-hole by grouping everyone into one category and not even throwing comedy into the mix so he can disarm some of those that he is damning to orthopraxy.

  • uhh

    TLDNR

  • Anonymous

    judge much rabbi pruzansky?
    I wish I could say I was surprised by this judgmental self righteous bs from this ass.

  • Teaneck & Toyrah

    Wow, I can’t wait until the Teaneck Witch Trials. Seriously, this guy is a real piece of work. He has nothing good to say about anyone or anything, ever. Just judgment and more judgment of his fellow yidden. He’s about as right wing as it gets in the mainstream Orthodox world – “modern haredi” I like to call them. And his kind are, sadly, starting to take over Teaneck and other MO communities more and more. His shul, B’nai Yeshurun, is the one Orthodox shul in Teaneck that I won’t set foot in, because of the attitudes he espouses in his various columns. If his brand of Orthodoxy is the future of the Orthodox world, then I guess I’ll be finding myself a heretical partnership minyan to daven with.

    And let’s not forget this:

    http://www.canonist.com/?p=176

  • G*3

    > Have you noticed that the article doesn’t really talk about belief or philosophy – it makes the assumption that all of these people believe somewhat but not enough.

    Exactly. The article comes across as a mussar schmooze, aimed at people who have fallen into a rut in their practice and need to focus on the meaning of their actions. The introduction makes it sound like he’s addressing people who don’t believe in Judaism’s tenets but remain part of the Orthodox community for other reasons, but it quickly turns into a wake-up call to those who don’t give enough thought to the significance of their actions and a polemic against those whose halachic standards are different from the author’s.

  • not even a praxyman anymore

    Steven P. Is a freekin idiot, I’ve been to his Shul, its sucks. he basically just said that 95% of his congration should not show up until they learn some decorum, and do things his way. Way to be inclusive, excepting, and loving of the people around him… oh but don’t worry, at least he can quote a yerushalmi, so that let’s him off the hook. I can’t wait for his pompus ass to get a little lashback. And by the way, the jets didn’t ask the orthodox community for their opinions on scheduling. They did it themselves. It’s this type of rabbinic attitude that drove me and so many of my friends away from the yeshiva system… thanks for the reminder you over-zolous brute!

  • http://skepticbutjewish.blogspot.com SkepticButJewish

    Why do these Rabbis fail to realize that sometimes the reason why people leave Orthodoxy is because they conclude it is entirely wrong? They have to set up their own straw man and think it is because we just want to be sinners. The funny thing is that it been about two years since I became a Opikorus and I still never ate non-kosher meat, haha. I mean I do not care what I eat. I can eat meat and then milk afterwards. But I never went to McDonalds, I never ate pork, I never ate anything else which is not kosher by its nature. Never been tempted too. Obviously, “being a sinner” does not apply to me. Nor does it apply to many other people.

  • http://shtetlvision.blogspot.com feivelbenmishael

    I used to think exactly like this.
    On Yom Kippur I would look around Shul and laugh to myself “Where do these people get off? They come here once a year and they think they will be forgiven?”

    Then someone said, “Isn’t it beautiful how all these people who do absolutely nothing Jewish all year know on Yom Kippur that they are Jews and this is where they belong”

  • J

    Just the fact that he wrote “fascinated by grown men pounding each other” is enough to make fun of. Now I know where not to daven in Teaneck. Then again I still haven’t found where to daven there.

  • Yehuda, King of the BTs

    As a BT, I must say that the Rabbi does make a lot of good points. For years after becoming shomer Shabbos, I would attend a “modern Orthodox” shul, similar to a typical Young Israel and like many of the shuls in the Rabbi’s area of Teaneck, NJ. I still attend these shuls on occasion as they can be counted on to have multiple minyamin especially in the more “religious” areas.
    While it is better for Yidden to come to shul than to stay at home on Shabbos, what drives me absolutely insane is the 30% of the male shul membership who show up during the the latter aspects of the service, such as the Rabbi’s speech or the repetition of mussaf . They come into shul like it’s the Alpine Country Club, as they smilingly sashay into their seats, shaking everyone’s hand, wishing them a good Shabbos and then proceeding to talk for the rest of the service, even during kaddishim.
    The kicker is going to these shuls for the Purim Megillah reading, when the whole idea is to hear every word read aloud. To them , this is New Year’s Eve, as it enables them to talk nonstop for 25 minutes without anyone shushing them.
    I wish EVERY “Orthodox” Jew would be forced to attend either a Gateways weekend seminar (without talking) or even a Chabad 6-week JLI course. Perhaps, these bozos will realize that the reason they come to shul is not to socialize and yap like a bunch of wash women, but to daven to Hashem, that is, if they believe in Him whatsoever.

  • http://finkorswim.com E. Fink

    Great article.

    And thanks for the link…

  • http://twitter.com/MarkSoFla Mark

    Heshy – Oh so now we have to eat wafers to celebrate shabbos?

    LOL LOL LOL !!!

  • http://twitter.com/MarkSoFla Mark

    Heshy – According to Tanya we are all rashayim.

    Here’s where Christians have it a lot easier than we do; They have some other guy (a Jew, even!) that died for their sins.

  • http://shtetlvision.blogspot.com feivelbenmishael

    According to Tanya the jury is still out on you probably.

  • Anonymous

    >This is called the part of speech he can quite when the shit hits the fan and he has to take some of what he said back.

    Maybe I’m misunderstanding, but I thought that was the part of the speech where he explains how all the Rabbis who ended up on the news and then behind bars are still Orthodox leaders despite doing all the terrible sins that personify the Orthoprax Jew. And it’s a pretty lame argument too.

  • anonymous

    according to tanya we are not inherently rashaim; everyone can choose to be either a rasha or beinoni(being a tzaddik is a divine gift), and even a rasha can, in one moment, become a beinoni.

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  • benji

    @Yehuda, King of the BTs… your attitude is why BT’s get a bad rap… just out of curiosity, do you ever use terms like “its b’ferish in the artscroll”?

  • kissmei’mshomer

    feivelbenmishael – nice comment on the part of your friend.

    While I understand that some people don’t want to be too touchy-feely feel-good because they think it will water down their message, I can’t help but agree that acknowledging and encouraging the positives taht people are doing is more likely to inspire.

    Reminds me a tidbit from my seminary days. During a discussion of Ba’al Peor, one of our teachers was shooting off about how America (or, as he called it, “Am Reika”) and Americans ideals are the root of all evil. He then – only partially jokingly – demonstrated that ba’al peor (or just pe’or, can’t remember) was equal to America in gematria.

    Our next teacher walked in and saw the words “America=Ba’al Peor” written on the board. He shook his head and erased it, then turned to us and said, “When I think of America, do you know what I think of? Rav Moshe Feinstein!”

    You can guess which teacher we respected and learned more from…

  • Yehuda, King of the BTs

    Hey Benjy,

    You wrote
    @Yehuda, King of the BTs… your attitude is why BT’s get a bad rap… just out of curiosity, do you ever use terms like “its b’ferish in the artscroll”?”

    I have no idea what “b’ferish” means, bro. I daven Nusach Ari, by the way.

    Nu? You don’t agree with me about the yapping bozos and the Megilla reading?

  • lizardqueen11

    What a Debbie Downer! Instead of looking at that ‘Orthoprax’ Jews are not doing, why can’t he see what they are doing? Coming to shul at all – whether for social or spiritual reasons – is still difficult. If he is so passionate about mitzvos, he should remember that he doesn’t know the value of one mitzah over another… oh yes, let’s not forget about the Torah precept not to judge others… I can’t speak for other Jews, but the reason I practice on the outside and appear frum is because I am afraid that I will lose my community – my sense of place in the world, the acquaintances and mentors who see me this way – if I were to openly declare that I enjoy watching Friday night TV AND Shabbos dinner.