Comments on: The Mission Minyan: If Orthodox and Egalitarian were possible http://www.frumsatire.net/2010/02/02/the-mission-minyan-if-orthodox-and-egalitarian-were-possible/ It aint always frum and it aint always satire Thu, 29 Jul 2010 17:38:19 -0400 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: chevramaidel http://www.frumsatire.net/2010/02/02/the-mission-minyan-if-orthodox-and-egalitarian-were-possible/comment-page-1/#comment-95446 chevramaidel Fri, 18 Jun 2010 01:09:11 +0000 http://www.frumsatire.net/?p=4199#comment-95446 I'm sure you meant that when men are reciting the Sh'ma, they are forbidden to listen to a woman sing. At first it looks like the women are saying the Sh'ma and singing. If a man has a problem listening to women singing words of kedusha, (my opinion is) he needs to do a spiritual self-examination. I’m sure you meant that when men are reciting the Sh’ma, they are forbidden to listen to a woman sing. At first it looks like the women are saying the Sh’ma and singing. If a man has a problem listening to women singing words of kedusha, (my opinion is) he needs to do a spiritual self-examination.

]]> By: Eppy Chorus http://www.frumsatire.net/2010/02/02/the-mission-minyan-if-orthodox-and-egalitarian-were-possible/comment-page-1/#comment-84277 Eppy Chorus Wed, 17 Feb 2010 04:34:52 +0000 http://www.frumsatire.net/?p=4199#comment-84277 Most pentecostal churches that used to be shuls were Orthodox shuls. The change came not because of doctrinal evolution but because of the combination of Orthodox attrition as younger generations decided to partake of society at large instead of staying in the ghetto AND as Jews moved out of "the old neighborhood" to fancier houses in fancier neighborhoods. It happens less with Reform shuls because what they may lack in halachic observance they atone for with a much better sense of real estate. Most pentecostal churches that used to be shuls were Orthodox shuls. The change came not because of doctrinal evolution but because of the combination of Orthodox attrition as younger generations decided to partake of society at large instead of staying in the ghetto AND as Jews moved out of “the old neighborhood” to fancier houses in fancier neighborhoods.

It happens less with Reform shuls because what they may lack in halachic observance they atone for with a much better sense of real estate.

]]> By: Oyster http://www.frumsatire.net/2010/02/02/the-mission-minyan-if-orthodox-and-egalitarian-were-possible/comment-page-1/#comment-83528 Oyster Mon, 08 Feb 2010 20:04:34 +0000 http://www.frumsatire.net/?p=4199#comment-83528 FrumGer: The MM has no intention of affiliating with any Jewish organization or denomination. In fact, there's no membership, so there can't be a vote at all! Does your shul belong to some American Jewish denomination? Do you have to pay membership fees at your shul? I wouldn't get too excited by the fact that your shul is not independent (which you seem to imply; correct me if I'm wrong). It's not exactly a long-standing tradition. You know, I heard that Moshe Rabbeinu himself was the head of the Rabbinical Council of America back in the day. :-) FrumGer:

The MM has no intention of affiliating with any Jewish organization or denomination. In fact, there’s no membership, so there can’t be a vote at all!

Does your shul belong to some American Jewish denomination? Do you have to pay membership fees at your shul?

I wouldn’t get too excited by the fact that your shul is not independent (which you seem to imply; correct me if I’m wrong). It’s not exactly a long-standing tradition. You know, I heard that Moshe Rabbeinu himself was the head of the Rabbinical Council of America back in the day. :-)

]]> By: FrumGer http://www.frumsatire.net/2010/02/02/the-mission-minyan-if-orthodox-and-egalitarian-were-possible/comment-page-1/#comment-83527 FrumGer Mon, 08 Feb 2010 19:57:05 +0000 http://www.frumsatire.net/?p=4199#comment-83527 Mistake Catcher is called a Gabbai, Hesh... So you declined Hagbah, man to be completly honest, i love it when i am called for hagbah, secretly even more than aliyot, i know its my pride, but i do a kick ass hagbah, at least 7 blot showing and i hate to see these wormy yidden get up there fumble around and almost drop the Torah. there is a small section of our shul we're all good at hagbah, and if someone does a bad one you here the scoffing and puffing form our section definatly..... side note- Our rabbi does this thing on Simchas Torah where he crosses his hands and as he lifts the Torah he turns its around mid air so the congregation can see it. its like the x games of hagbah also that shul will soon take a vote, and in a couple years and will join the USCJ then give it 10 more years it will be a Refom Shul, then a few more years after that it will be a messianic shul then couple more years after that it will be a pentecostal church. Mistake Catcher is called a Gabbai, Hesh… So you declined Hagbah, man to be completly honest, i love it when i am called for hagbah, secretly even more than aliyot, i know its my pride, but i do a kick ass hagbah, at least 7 blot showing and i hate to see these wormy yidden get up there fumble around and almost drop the Torah. there is a small section of our shul we’re all good at hagbah, and if someone does a bad one you here the scoffing and puffing form our section definatly….. side note- Our rabbi does this thing on Simchas Torah where he crosses his hands and as he lifts the Torah he turns its around mid air so the congregation can see it. its like the x games of hagbah

also that shul will soon take a vote, and in a couple years and will join the USCJ then give it 10 more years it will be a Refom Shul, then a few more years after that it will be a messianic shul then couple more years after that it will be a pentecostal church.

]]> By: Aliza http://www.frumsatire.net/2010/02/02/the-mission-minyan-if-orthodox-and-egalitarian-were-possible/comment-page-1/#comment-83367 Aliza Sun, 07 Feb 2010 00:01:16 +0000 http://www.frumsatire.net/?p=4199#comment-83367 I believe there is one called Darche Noam on the Upper West Side, modeled after Shira Hadasha in Jerusalem. I am only familiar with Shira Hadasah, which has no mixed seating. Also, women only lead the parts of tefilah where there is no issue of "being motzi" men -- i.e., kabalat shabbat and taking out and returning the sefer torah. Of course, women have aliyot, read the torah, and act as gabbaiyot. I believe there is one called Darche Noam on the Upper West Side, modeled after Shira Hadasha in Jerusalem. I am only familiar with Shira Hadasah, which has no mixed seating. Also, women only lead the parts of tefilah where there is no issue of “being motzi” men — i.e., kabalat shabbat and taking out and returning the sefer torah. Of course, women have aliyot, read the torah, and act as gabbaiyot.

]]> By: The Mission Minyan gets Frum Satirized « Oy Bay! http://www.frumsatire.net/2010/02/02/the-mission-minyan-if-orthodox-and-egalitarian-were-possible/comment-page-1/#comment-83284 The Mission Minyan gets Frum Satirized « Oy Bay! Thu, 04 Feb 2010 16:18:52 +0000 http://www.frumsatire.net/?p=4199#comment-83284 [...] by Oyster on February 4, 2010 Not since the days of Friar Yid has the Mission Minyan got such a great review. Funny stuff, this Frum Satire site. Highly [...] [...] by Oyster on February 4, 2010 Not since the days of Friar Yid has the Mission Minyan got such a great review. Funny stuff, this Frum Satire site. Highly [...]

]]> By: Oyster http://www.frumsatire.net/2010/02/02/the-mission-minyan-if-orthodox-and-egalitarian-were-possible/comment-page-1/#comment-83283 Oyster Thu, 04 Feb 2010 16:11:15 +0000 http://www.frumsatire.net/?p=4199#comment-83283 We at the Mission Minyan rarely take the good L-rd's name "in vein", mainly out of respect for kashrut. :-p We at the Mission Minyan rarely take the good L-rd’s name “in vein”, mainly out of respect for kashrut. :-p

]]> By: dave http://www.frumsatire.net/2010/02/02/the-mission-minyan-if-orthodox-and-egalitarian-were-possible/comment-page-1/#comment-83279 dave Thu, 04 Feb 2010 15:52:03 +0000 http://www.frumsatire.net/?p=4199#comment-83279 JUST ONE THAT MY WIFE AND CAN GO AND BE A PART OF IT JUST ONE THAT MY WIFE AND CAN GO AND BE A PART OF IT

]]> By: Steve http://www.frumsatire.net/2010/02/02/the-mission-minyan-if-orthodox-and-egalitarian-were-possible/comment-page-1/#comment-83235 Steve Wed, 03 Feb 2010 21:10:36 +0000 http://www.frumsatire.net/?p=4199#comment-83235 Everyone is talking about ervah and mechitzas, but nobody is talking about kol isha, to which there is nothing to say. Everyone is talking about ervah and mechitzas, but nobody is talking about kol isha, to which there is nothing to say.

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