Comments on: Letter to the editor: Wife Swapping in the frum community http://www.frumsatire.net/2009/11/17/letter-to-the-editor-wife-swapping-in-the-frum-community/ It aint always frum and it aint always satire Fri, 19 Mar 2010 05:59:55 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Michaltastik http://www.frumsatire.net/2009/11/17/letter-to-the-editor-wife-swapping-in-the-frum-community/comment-page-1/#comment-78986 Michaltastik Tue, 24 Nov 2009 00:19:55 +0000 http://www.frumsatire.net/?p=3649#comment-78986 Actually, if he really believed that everyone was a tzaddik then there would be no need for women to be "protected" or does he think women are stupid and childlike? I so, agree with you, Mr. Ghottistyx, there are so many creeps but, everyone thinks they are ok, so no one knows and then BOOM one day something happens. Also, there's this erroneous idea that if you know someone they couldn't possibly be doing anything wrong... after all, you KNOW him or her. I'm dying to know how old FrumGer is. I'll bet he's under 25, like 20. Actually, if he really believed that everyone was a tzaddik then there would be no need for women to be “protected” or does he think women are stupid and childlike?

I so, agree with you, Mr. Ghottistyx, there are so many creeps but, everyone thinks they are ok, so no one knows and then BOOM one day something happens. Also, there’s this erroneous idea that if you know someone they couldn’t possibly be doing anything wrong… after all, you KNOW him or her.

I’m dying to know how old FrumGer is. I’ll bet he’s under 25, like 20.

]]> By: A. Nuran http://www.frumsatire.net/2009/11/17/letter-to-the-editor-wife-swapping-in-the-frum-community/comment-page-1/#comment-78862 A. Nuran Fri, 20 Nov 2009 06:12:42 +0000 http://www.frumsatire.net/?p=3649#comment-78862 I really don't see what all the foo-fraw is about. It has happened. It has always happened. It always <strong><em>will</em></strong> happen. And people will come up with pretty much the same ways of having fun or being stupid, sometimes both at once. This sort of letter and the column that came before it aren't going to give anyone "ideas" they didn't already have. Do cheating, swinging and polyamory exist in the frum world? Certainly. People are probably just a little more careful about covering it up or go further out of town to avoid people who know them. I really don’t see what all the foo-fraw is about.
It has happened.
It has always happened.
It always will happen.

And people will come up with pretty much the same ways of having fun or being stupid, sometimes both at once. This sort of letter and the column that came before it aren’t going to give anyone “ideas” they didn’t already have.

Do cheating, swinging and polyamory exist in the frum world? Certainly. People are probably just a little more careful about covering it up or go further out of town to avoid people who know them.

]]> By: Rabbi "No" http://www.frumsatire.net/2009/11/17/letter-to-the-editor-wife-swapping-in-the-frum-community/comment-page-1/#comment-78850 Rabbi "No" Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:50:21 +0000 http://www.frumsatire.net/?p=3649#comment-78850 Ohhh....you meant wives......Honest mistake on my part..... Ohhh….you meant wives……Honest mistake on my part…..

]]> By: Rabbi "No" http://www.frumsatire.net/2009/11/17/letter-to-the-editor-wife-swapping-in-the-frum-community/comment-page-1/#comment-78849 Rabbi "No" Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:37:38 +0000 http://www.frumsatire.net/?p=3649#comment-78849 I will trade you my horse for your cow. She has a lot of miles on her but she won't stray and will get you to were you want to go. I will trade you my horse for your cow. She has a lot of miles on her but she won’t stray and will get you to were you want to go.

]]> By: MadMaxInJerusalem http://www.frumsatire.net/2009/11/17/letter-to-the-editor-wife-swapping-in-the-frum-community/comment-page-1/#comment-78837 MadMaxInJerusalem Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:55:13 +0000 http://www.frumsatire.net/?p=3649#comment-78837 While it may not be common in the Jewish community why do you think 50% of marriages end in divorce in the USA? While it may not be common in the Jewish community why do you think 50% of marriages end in divorce in the USA?

]]> By: G*3 http://www.frumsatire.net/2009/11/17/letter-to-the-editor-wife-swapping-in-the-frum-community/comment-page-1/#comment-78827 G*3 Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:18:06 +0000 http://www.frumsatire.net/?p=3649#comment-78827 > Women are way more mature. Men are immature pigs! How is that any better than FrumGer's comments? You clearly think that his comment was misogynistic and sexist (and I agree), but yours is just as sexist. FrumGer, you don't seem to understand that a lot of people are frum becuase they grew up that way. Its their culture. Even if they truly, sincerely beleive all of it, religion is not at the front of their minds all the time. People daven shachris and put on tefilillin in part becuase that's what you do in the morning, like putting on your pants and brushing your teeth. That he slept with his girlfriend the night before really isn't relevant. > Women are way more mature. Men are immature pigs!

How is that any better than FrumGer’s comments? You clearly think that his comment was misogynistic and sexist (and I agree), but yours is just as sexist.

FrumGer, you don’t seem to understand that a lot of people are frum becuase they grew up that way. Its their culture. Even if they truly, sincerely beleive all of it, religion is not at the front of their minds all the time. People daven shachris and put on tefilillin in part becuase that’s what you do in the morning, like putting on your pants and brushing your teeth. That he slept with his girlfriend the night before really isn’t relevant.

]]> By: eyekanspel http://www.frumsatire.net/2009/11/17/letter-to-the-editor-wife-swapping-in-the-frum-community/comment-page-1/#comment-78801 eyekanspel Thu, 19 Nov 2009 06:49:30 +0000 http://www.frumsatire.net/?p=3649#comment-78801 FrumGer, Sometimes your comments show a small bit of insight, but your comment on this article was pure drivel. Sorry, but I can't think of any other way to describe it. I could surprise you with the kinds of stories I know firsthand about people sinning, but I'll spare you the details. Just trust me on this one. I'm 20, ffb, and single, and I have seen things (firsthand, not through hearsay) that would make your frum hair stand on end. FrumGer,
Sometimes your comments show a small bit of insight, but your comment on this article was pure drivel. Sorry, but I can’t think of any other way to describe it. I could surprise you with the kinds of stories I know firsthand about people sinning, but I’ll spare you the details. Just trust me on this one. I’m 20, ffb, and single, and I have seen things (firsthand, not through hearsay) that would make your frum hair stand on end.

]]> By: ghottistyx http://www.frumsatire.net/2009/11/17/letter-to-the-editor-wife-swapping-in-the-frum-community/comment-page-1/#comment-78789 ghottistyx Thu, 19 Nov 2009 03:21:24 +0000 http://www.frumsatire.net/?p=3649#comment-78789 Once again, FrumGer proves to us that he's living in an idealized world where EVERYONE is a tzaddik and no one sins. Really, the world was as you described, don't you think Moshiach would have come by now? If people were really so ashamed to sin that they didn't? Seriously man, wake up and smell the shmaltz herring! If people want to sin, they will. I know my share of people who daven with kavannah, but their actions do not reflect their schtarkikeit (is that a word?). I think we can all agree that they are like the students are Rabbi Akiva. But again, please note that the main point is that it's more rampant than people think it is. So I adress this final point not just to FrumGer, but to EVERYONE. Just because you don't know anyone who does it, doesn't mean it's not happening. I don't know anyone personally who is a rapist, but God knows they're out there and they're quite rampant! When I read articles about rapists in the local community, should I assume they're not out there just because I don't know any? For those of you who are thinking "what about in the frum community...", I knew Baruch Lanner (or thought I did). Once again, FrumGer proves to us that he’s living in an idealized world where EVERYONE is a tzaddik and no one sins. Really, the world was as you described, don’t you think Moshiach would have come by now? If people were really so ashamed to sin that they didn’t? Seriously man, wake up and smell the shmaltz herring! If people want to sin, they will. I know my share of people who daven with kavannah, but their actions do not reflect their schtarkikeit (is that a word?).

I think we can all agree that they are like the students are Rabbi Akiva. But again, please note that the main point is that it’s more rampant than people think it is. So I adress this final point not just to FrumGer, but to EVERYONE. Just because you don’t know anyone who does it, doesn’t mean it’s not happening. I don’t know anyone personally who is a rapist, but God knows they’re out there and they’re quite rampant! When I read articles about rapists in the local community, should I assume they’re not out there just because I don’t know any? For those of you who are thinking “what about in the frum community…”, I knew Baruch Lanner (or thought I did).

]]> By: Rabbi "No" http://www.frumsatire.net/2009/11/17/letter-to-the-editor-wife-swapping-in-the-frum-community/comment-page-1/#comment-78781 Rabbi "No" Thu, 19 Nov 2009 00:37:07 +0000 http://www.frumsatire.net/?p=3649#comment-78781 I'll have my trademark attorneys contact Heshy. We'll work out a fair licensing agreement. I’ll have my trademark attorneys contact Heshy. We’ll work out a fair licensing agreement.

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