phil– again, you are speaking as if truth is relative. the goyim have set up theocracy in the past the roman catholic church and eurpoe, the ottoman empire for the muslims, these were theocracies. but they base their right to do so on falsehoods. that is why it is ok for us, to set one up and not the goyim, because we worship the one true G-d, they worship an image of G-d that they have created, they have formed and shaped G-d into something he is not, which to me is the basis of Idol worship. That is why we have the right to do something, and they do not.

about your question about accomodation and reciprocity… we have to acommodate many things that they do not. we have to eat kosher, they do not , our men have a brit milah, theirs do not. we have a great deal many things we have to do that they do not. so i would say that in the terms of fairness, its our right to be leaders, we are chosen to be so. our we better, No.. different yes. are we their leaders, yes. do we have spiritual authority on this earth and on the people in it, yes. just as a manager is set incharge of his workers from the owner, so to us with the nations of the earth.
Goyim don’t have to be nice to us, sure, but they are supposed to be. they don’t have to be nice just like i don’t have to be shomer shabbos but that doen’s mean i would not pay for it if i was not. they will pay for their cruelty. they will. here or there, now or later they will pay for it.

If God can set us up with a theocracy because we follow Judaism, then, according to islam, allah set them up with the same. Obviously, we believe we’re right and they believe they’re right.

Anyway, the Torah doesn’t expect goyim to be nice to us. In fact, it specifically tells us to deal with them the same way they deal with us in some places by not having pity on them, the implications are obvious.

Where do you base your theory about them having to accomodate us while we don’t have to reciprocate?

who else brought jews to the eyes of heartland america other than the entertainment industry?? what other industry casted a good light on jews, bringing many of the comedians of the borcsht belt to the entire US. before tv and movies, there was much antisemitism in america, now its an afterthought almost. ( it does exist sure but not like it used to) why? because the so many of goyims favorite actors were jewish. then they found out- hey these guys arent so bad…

what is it with yidden that want to deny a steroetypes and immediatly jump to “thats antisemetic”… guess what wake up! read the last names on most movie credits, Go wikipedia a great deal of your favorite actors, directors, music performers, etc many are jewish!! for good or bad…

Phil- Eretz Yisroel is different. Hashem set the one true theocracy up, and that is why we could restict and dictate who and what was worshipped in the land. we has that right because we were charged by G-d to do so…. but Goyim are not charged by G-d to do the same to us.

You see your logic is based on the idea that truth and morality is relative not absolute. i believe that in the case of goyim their truth and morality is relative to their persective, not fact. the fact is that there is only one truth and that is the Torah. So then we can restrict religion in Eretz Yisroel because Hashem charged us to do so. but Goyim have no right to do the same because their truth is based on relativity, I.E. lies and falsehood. in other words its OK by G-d for us to do that, its not OK by G-d for them to do the same… unless you argue that morality is relative for yidden as well… which then why do you believe the Torah?

Dude-
totally agree with you, especially about Yoshke—- Rabbi shmuley often says that the goyim stole Jesus from us and its time we take him back, in his jewish rabbinical context of course, and not as moshiach..