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	<title>Comments on: Artscroll may soon be losing its siddur&#160;monopoly</title>
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		<title>By: Sheryl Abbey</title>
		<link>http://www.frumsatire.net/2009/05/13/artscroll-may-soon-be-losing-its-siddur-monopoly/comment-page-1/#comment-78165</link>
		<dc:creator>Sheryl Abbey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 18:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to bring you up-to-date: The OU has decided to team up with Koren Publishers Jerusalem to publish a long-awaited siddur with commentary by the Rav, Joseph B. Soloveitchik. It will be called The Koren Mesorat HaRav Siddur and is scheduled to be out in April 2010.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to bring you up-to-date: The OU has decided to team up with Koren Publishers Jerusalem to publish a long-awaited siddur with commentary by the Rav, Joseph B. Soloveitchik. It will be called The Koren Mesorat HaRav Siddur and is scheduled to be out in April 2010.</p>
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		<title>By: someone</title>
		<link>http://www.frumsatire.net/2009/05/13/artscroll-may-soon-be-losing-its-siddur-monopoly/comment-page-1/#comment-70873</link>
		<dc:creator>someone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 22:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>prayer in Judaism http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/862308/jewish/Jewish-Prayer.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>prayer in Judaism <a href="http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/862308/jewish/Jewish-Prayer.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/862308/jewish/Jewish-Prayer.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: someone</title>
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		<dc:creator>someone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 22:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>interview with R&#039; Jonathon Sacks about the new siddur http://www.algemeiner.com/generic.asp?ID=5463</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>interview with R&#8217; Jonathon Sacks about the new siddur <a href="http://www.algemeiner.com/generic.asp?ID=5463" rel="nofollow">http://www.algemeiner.com/generic.asp?ID=5463</a></p>
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		<title>By: Juggling Frogs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juggling Frogs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 21:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oops - that should read &quot;reading *even* text that....&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oops &#8211; that should read &#8220;reading *even* text that&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Juggling Frogs</title>
		<link>http://www.frumsatire.net/2009/05/13/artscroll-may-soon-be-losing-its-siddur-monopoly/comment-page-1/#comment-70074</link>
		<dc:creator>Juggling Frogs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 21:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Raphael:  Thank you!  Whatever it is, having it makes reading text that was long-ago committed to memory so much easier to read and/or scan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Raphael:  Thank you!  Whatever it is, having it makes reading text that was long-ago committed to memory so much easier to read and/or scan.</p>
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		<title>By: Raphael Freeman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raphael Freeman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 10:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Juggling Frogs: I think you mean the kamatz katan which is enlarged (confusing eh, but the katan refers to the grammatical status of the kamatz not the size).  

Dave UK: The Koren Siddur puts in the official prayer for the State of Israel including reishit tzmichat geulatenu, however, the language has been adjusted for chutz laaretz, ie &quot;our dispersion&quot; as opposed to &quot;their dispersion&quot; as is said in Israel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Juggling Frogs: I think you mean the kamatz katan which is enlarged (confusing eh, but the katan refers to the grammatical status of the kamatz not the size).  </p>
<p>Dave UK: The Koren Siddur puts in the official prayer for the State of Israel including reishit tzmichat geulatenu, however, the language has been adjusted for chutz laaretz, ie &#8220;our dispersion&#8221; as opposed to &#8220;their dispersion&#8221; as is said in Israel.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris_B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris_B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 13:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Juggling Frogs,

Now that is a clear review! I&#039;ll try and look for it when I&#039;m Stateside next week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Juggling Frogs,</p>
<p>Now that is a clear review! I&#8217;ll try and look for it when I&#8217;m Stateside next week.</p>
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		<title>By: Juggling Frogs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juggling Frogs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 10:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t seen the Koren version, but I have had (and daven from) the Rabbi Sacks siddur since it first came out last year. 

It is beautiful, with a fantastic font, that includes the kometz gadol.  (The kometz gadol is like a pocket knife - something you don&#039;t imagine you&#039;d need, until you start to carry it, at which point it becomes indispensible.  )

The English translation is beyond compare.  Instead of an afterthought, it is written by someone fluent and in command of the nuances and beauty of both languages.   Rather than being stilted, it flows and it soars.  

What a joy to read a translation of davening that  is of a quality commensurate with its subject.

If you just have a few minutes in a bookstore with the siddur, check out the translation to shir hakavod.  The rhyming (!!) English retains and clarifies the true meaning of the Hebrew while keeping the meter and imagery of the poetry.   

It&#039;s a siddur for people who think in English, appreciate well-written English,  and who might like to read the left hand side of the page sometimes,  rather than have it available only for the  occasional word translation.

(At our Modern Orthodox shul, we use the RCA - black cover - Artscroll siddur, which has the prayer for the State of Israel, with the &quot;reishit smichat ge&#039;ulatainu&quot;.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t seen the Koren version, but I have had (and daven from) the Rabbi Sacks siddur since it first came out last year. </p>
<p>It is beautiful, with a fantastic font, that includes the kometz gadol.  (The kometz gadol is like a pocket knife &#8211; something you don&#8217;t imagine you&#8217;d need, until you start to carry it, at which point it becomes indispensible.  )</p>
<p>The English translation is beyond compare.  Instead of an afterthought, it is written by someone fluent and in command of the nuances and beauty of both languages.   Rather than being stilted, it flows and it soars.  </p>
<p>What a joy to read a translation of davening that  is of a quality commensurate with its subject.</p>
<p>If you just have a few minutes in a bookstore with the siddur, check out the translation to shir hakavod.  The rhyming (!!) English retains and clarifies the true meaning of the Hebrew while keeping the meter and imagery of the poetry.   </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a siddur for people who think in English, appreciate well-written English,  and who might like to read the left hand side of the page sometimes,  rather than have it available only for the  occasional word translation.</p>
<p>(At our Modern Orthodox shul, we use the RCA &#8211; black cover &#8211; Artscroll siddur, which has the prayer for the State of Israel, with the &#8220;reishit smichat ge&#8217;ulatainu&#8221;.)</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 20:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yochanan,

Magnanimous came from the Artscroll translation of Tehillim.

Would that make chassidim a bunch of magnanimouses?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yochanan,</p>
<p>Magnanimous came from the Artscroll translation of Tehillim.</p>
<p>Would that make chassidim a bunch of magnanimouses?</p>
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