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	<title>Comments on: The differences between modern orthodox and yeshivish&#160;seders</title>
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		<title>By: mikeinmidwood</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikeinmidwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 03:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dont briskers like burnt matzoh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dont briskers like burnt matzoh?</p>
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		<title>By: Shira Salamone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shira Salamone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 14:10:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When my great-uncle led the seder, it was just a speed-mumbling contest.  When my father took over, the seder became a maggid-in-English, equal-participation experience, with everyone at the table--male and female--taking turns reading.  Every seder that I&#039;ve made or attended as an adult has been a maggid-in-English, equal-participation experiencel, except for one.  When our son was quite young and couldn&#039;t read yet, our hosts&#039; daughter the yeshivah bachurah started reading the maggid in Hebrew.  I was so upset about my son being excluded that I started reading to him in English in an undertone.  It took longer than I would have liked for the hosts to get the hint and ask their daughter to switch to English.  What&#039;s the point in telling the story of the Exodus in a language that not everyone at the table understands?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When my great-uncle led the seder, it was just a speed-mumbling contest.  When my father took over, the seder became a maggid-in-English, equal-participation experience, with everyone at the table&#8211;male and female&#8211;taking turns reading.  Every seder that I&#8217;ve made or attended as an adult has been a maggid-in-English, equal-participation experiencel, except for one.  When our son was quite young and couldn&#8217;t read yet, our hosts&#8217; daughter the yeshivah bachurah started reading the maggid in Hebrew.  I was so upset about my son being excluded that I started reading to him in English in an undertone.  It took longer than I would have liked for the hosts to get the hint and ask their daughter to switch to English.  What&#8217;s the point in telling the story of the Exodus in a language that not everyone at the table understands?</p>
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		<title>By: Yochanan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yochanan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 19:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I am curious if anyone ever had a milchig seder - that would be wayyy modern.&quot;

I did.  During the seder, there was that symbolic remembrance of the korban thingamajig on the plate.  When the meal came out it was sliced cheese and pesto lasagna.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I am curious if anyone ever had a milchig seder &#8211; that would be wayyy modern.&#8221;</p>
<p>I did.  During the seder, there was that symbolic remembrance of the korban thingamajig on the plate.  When the meal came out it was sliced cheese and pesto lasagna.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 19:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yellow and red one is an old artscroll haggadah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yellow and red one is an old artscroll haggadah.</p>
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		<title>By: The Law</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Law</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 18:07:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>we sing chad gadya and echad mi yodeah in german....

we also pass out masks and assign ppl the various sounds of the animals in chad gadya so the can bark like a dog, meow like a cat, etc. makes the seder end on a fun note, especially after all that wine....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we sing chad gadya and echad mi yodeah in german&#8230;.</p>
<p>we also pass out masks and assign ppl the various sounds of the animals in chad gadya so the can bark like a dog, meow like a cat, etc. makes the seder end on a fun note, especially after all that wine&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Frum Satire</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frum Satire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 18:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We never did afikoman probably because we were poor and all my friends got fancy stuff and lots of money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We never did afikoman probably because we were poor and all my friends got fancy stuff and lots of money.</p>
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		<title>By: jennthejewess</title>
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		<dc:creator>jennthejewess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 15:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>12 am first night and 12:30 am second night- beat that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>12 am first night and 12:30 am second night- beat that!</p>
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		<title>By: gp</title>
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		<dc:creator>gp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 12:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually in our house afikoman was done b/c  it was done in my grandfather&#039;s house. Ditto for chad gadia and all the post-benching songs, we used non-chabad haggadahs for those. So you see, there are more dissidents than you think ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually in our house afikoman was done b/c  it was done in my grandfather&#8217;s house. Ditto for chad gadia and all the post-benching songs, we used non-chabad haggadahs for those. So you see, there are more dissidents than you think <img src='http://www.frumsatire.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: chevramaidel</title>
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		<dc:creator>chevramaidel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 06:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the Chabad tradition of leaving the best stuff out, their sedarim end before the singing. They sing other stuff at different points, but no Adir Hu, Chad Gadyo, etc. (My husband, though a Lubav, does sing them with me- shhh, don&#039;t tell anybody!)Also, in Chabad the kids don&#039;t steal the Afikoman, so as not to teach them to steal- they do sort of have a point there. One year our kids, who went to a non-Chabad school, took the Afikoman- and all heck broke loose.
I use the red-and-yellow haggadah myself- wouldn&#039;t be Pesach without it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the Chabad tradition of leaving the best stuff out, their sedarim end before the singing. They sing other stuff at different points, but no Adir Hu, Chad Gadyo, etc. (My husband, though a Lubav, does sing them with me- shhh, don&#8217;t tell anybody!)Also, in Chabad the kids don&#8217;t steal the Afikoman, so as not to teach them to steal- they do sort of have a point there. One year our kids, who went to a non-Chabad school, took the Afikoman- and all heck broke loose.<br />
I use the red-and-yellow haggadah myself- wouldn&#8217;t be Pesach without it!</p>
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