If there was one aspect of Pesach I could pick that I find entertaining its the bragging and discussing of seder times. The first day of Pesach shuls across the world are buzzing withe same exact conversation, what time did you end? Almost as if there is some sort of contest to see who goes the longest, which always goes back to people out-frumming each other.
Well as I mentioned above everyone loves to hear about seder times and so I shall say that my first seder went for quite some time but was very entertaining and the second seder I missed magid because it went so fast. Actually i always miss magid because I don’t like seders much and am usually busy trying to teach myself brail while trying to read what it said on matzo according to blind people.
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12:00?
2AM. It was a beautiful seder.
Both nights, I left the home where I was around midnight. However, the matzoh and the wine never met up until I was about halfway home. Whuz up with that? You know, that feeling of drinking four gigantic cups of wine, then the matzoh, then okay portions of food, then walking home and suddenly the matzoh and the wine meet up and the matzoh swells and you feel so so so full!!!!!!!!!!!
My head felt better after the first night just in time to get ready for seder #2.
What time did you finish? And did you figure out this years secret message on the shmuroh matzoh? I figured it out, then ate the evidence, and promptly forgot what it said. Shame. I remember something like….we’re donig it for the sake of the matzoh….we’re doing it for the sake of the matzoh…But I might be mistaken. Braille in Hebrew is not my best language.
12:07
First: 2:00
Second: 2:15
Are you kidding? Mine is still going.
Unfortunately we had 2 of them. Le’Shana HaBa’ah Be’Yerushalaim Ha’Benuya.
The first one finished at 12:10 or so. I was so proud of our almost-6 year old who stayed up until the end (the 9 year old, of course, stayed up, and our 7 year old and two 3 year olds left at about 11).
The second one finished at 11:45 or so. Our 6 year old slept on the sofa most of the time and I rolled her home in a stroller (good that my wife thought of bringing a stroller, even though the 3 year olds were home with a babysitter).
12:00 on the dot the first night, and second one was 1:30; guests make a difference.
2pm, both nights. But the second night started at least an hour later than the first.
Here’s what I don’t understand – if people are so into the sederim why are they always saying that its unfortunate that they have two – you would figure people are so into pesach they would want two seders.
About 8:15 pm wednesday, and 9:15 Thursday.
Wednesday it was right after the funeral so we only read the “if a man has not explained these three things, he has not fulfilled his duty” part (when I told rabbi fruendel he was unimpressed); and on thursday we did the complete 20-minute seder following a very strong minhag (that of my family). (Reading on page 3…on page 5 we find…it is our custom to skip now to page 19…on page 21, we see the conclusion as…)
1:40a both nights @ http://www.iyyun.com
At the first one I left at 2.30 but they didn’t actually finish until 3 (Shir HaShirim takes a while) and the second one 11.30 or so (different places…)
FS – Here’s what I don’t understand – if people are so into the sederim why are they always saying that its unfortunate that they have two – you would figure people are so into pesach they would want two seders.
Peasch is my all-time favorite holiday, for many reasons, first it celebrates one of the things that I hold most dear, freedom, second because I like that the entire family gets together, third, because I like the food, etc…
However, two seders (and two days of each of the S”R chagim) is complete nonsense. The best analogy I can think of is that it’s like watching a repeat of a great television show (kaveyochel) the day immediately after watching it the first time
Since I haven’t managed to rent a family yet I was at two public seders at my Chabad house…
so: 11 and 12.
It ended before it began. I forwarded the Faceebook Haggadah to the woman I read to, who unlike her brother who she asked to read it to her found the humor in it. Upon entering and first-time introductions I was given a talking to by the brother on the sanctity of the occasion and that someone in my position, a ger, should not take it so lightly, etc. Good Times!
1st: 2:20
2nd: 2:50.
Both times I had a half hour walk home.
Is it me or do many guys leading sdarim have an “aw f-it” attitude after the meal?
Is it me or do many guys leading sdarim have an “aw f-it” attitude after the meal?
No, not really. Hallel is, well, hallel. We try to sing as much of it as possible. Benching is benching, like every meal, and if the kids are still awake, we sing most of it, otherwise we mumble it
But then we have a lot of fun with the songs at the end. My brother-in-law is especially good with the songs. The only thing I don’t like that much in the second half is Nishmat kol chai.
My first meal, we started benstching at 12:02am (in bed around 1:30am having sung all the songs at the end) and the second meal, I got in at 2:10am. The first meal was where I stayed and the second seder I was with someone else around the corner and there were more people.
Oh, a rabbi in the area finished at 3:45am, only because he kept falling asleep on the haggadah.
Shevers,
ONLY 11 and 12?
Last year, I was at Chabad seders, as last year I was in your shoes. They ended like 2 and 1am. Plus, last year, I wasn’t on the ball like this year. This year, I ate before leaving to go to my hosts and I knapped from candlelighting until seder start. A seder is much easier when you’re not hungry and tired.
First seder was normal, ended around 11:00. My second seder was at my in-laws, who decided that it would be a good idea not to put the turkey in until 7:30 (and had not made charoset, potatoes, or any other food (My sister in law and I made four dishes for them)). Since they do a straight, mumble all the hebrew Seder, with no English readings or discussion, it normally runs quite quickly, even though they don’t skip anything, but I was in no rush, since we weren’t going to be able to eat dinner until 11:30 anyway. We didn’t finish until after 1:00, but what was amazing is that three of the six children were actually still participating in the songs at the end.
@LearnedShiksa
I apologise, on behalf of this brother of your friend, a fellow Jew.
You are no different than we are. In fact, we should be in awe of you because it was an easier choice to learn the Noahide laws and follow them. You were required by g-d to do no more. Instead, you chose the more difficult path of learning and doing 613 mitzvohs. Obviously your nephesh was at Sinai – otherwise why would you be so drawn to give up an easier way of life and take up the obligations given to Jews?
Again, I apologise for what happened to you.
Remember, Ha’shem created the platypus. (and hair that disappears from men’s heads and begins coming out their nose and ears.) You tell me our g-d has no sense of humor.
All the best,
Leeba
I would like to add to this discussion the fact that I did not care what time the seder was over. I was just so glad to be able to sit!!!!
After using a what seemed like an entire case of aluminum foil and two rolls of duct tape on my home, vacuuming the same hallway 26 times and moving the oven and fridge all by myself, I then slept for three hours, went to work all night, took a train, walked up the stairway to the hill where we would say the blessing of the sun, shlepped back to the store to pick up a few missed items, set the table, etc., – I could barely wait to light the candles and sit down.
Leeba
When you’re young and single, and most likely a guest at someone else’s seder, everybody brags that their seder ran the longest. But when you’ve been married and making sedarim about a million years, you’re going, “This year we finished before 1 A.M.!”
Mark,
I mean they take until 12:30 to say the first part. After that, they just want to get it over with and rush through it.
11:15……..just me the wife & kids.
Chevra,
I’m a freak. I asked my hosts, “can we make a record of finishing early-the world’s fastest seder? Please don’t explain for me, I have commentary in front of me… if I want to read it, I will.”
Learned Shiksa,
Either you’re a shika or a ger, you’re not both.
Leeba,
Did you see that Facebook hagaddah?
Back to Learned Shiksa,
You should watch this video one of the commenters posted on her own blog:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2ePd43aon8&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Flady%2Dlight%2Eblogspot%2Ecom%2F&feature=player_embedded