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Black Leaders call for boycot of Judaica stores that sell this…

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  • Anonymous March 4, 2009, 11:58 AM

    Poor taste. Actually watermelon tastes great on a hot day but your post is in poor taste.

  • Anonymous March 4, 2009, 12:14 PM

    What does a kippah like this do to your shidduch options?

  • Anonymous March 4, 2009, 12:15 PM

    Thats so funny, I was just in the mall here in Israel and saw that one and wanted to get it for my brother. I didnt think anything racist when i saw it…

  • Double M March 4, 2009, 12:19 PM

    I like it! Colorful with an interesting pattern. But I just dont understand why anyone would be upset with a kipah? Is it because it is not velvet?

  • Frum Satire March 4, 2009, 12:22 PM

    The watermelon yarmulke was very popular in the mid 1990s I have one of them myself, it kind of went away like the smiley face yarmulke.

    My post is poking at the absurdity of some of the things that are deemed Racist. The whole point of political cartoons is that they poke fun below the belt. How is supposed to do a political cartoon without making fun of someones race?

    The monkey cartoon was promoting violence against race, but having watermelons on a lawn is like putting bagels on Leibermans lawn

  • Chedvah March 4, 2009, 12:25 PM

    What is Racist about a watermellon Kippa?Seriously

  • Double M March 4, 2009, 12:27 PM

    If you want an example, how about a bright orange kipah with the words I Support Club Gitmo on it?

  • Frum Satire March 4, 2009, 12:33 PM

    Chedvah if I wasn’t a reader I also would have no idea. Black people like watermelon, so it has become racist to portray them with watermelons.

    I do wonder if having abunch of women with snoods on downing cups of moscato diasti would be anti-semitic

  • veebee March 4, 2009, 12:33 PM

    What’s with the white rim? Mine doesn’t have that.

  • DS March 4, 2009, 12:36 PM

    Double M- I like your idea, how about a Kippa that looks like Matza and that says: “needs more baby.” on it?

  • Frum Satire March 4, 2009, 12:43 PM

    Veebee thats the rind

  • Phil March 4, 2009, 12:47 PM

    One of my buddies wears one to shul. Nothing racist about watermelons, white people eat them too, along with fried chicken and corn cobs. Now Colt 45 on the other hand…

    Shvartzes need to relax a bit more, they seem to get pissed off and over react at the slightest thing. Maybe it’s those long line ups at the welfare / unemployment office…

    The NAACP contributes to racism against blacks. With ridiculous boycott calls and incessant whining on TV every time someone says anything even remotely stereotypical, it’s no wonder people are fed up with them.

    On a side note, they refused to accept my African American mother in law’s membership because she isn’t black. F*****G hypocrites!

  • Double M March 4, 2009, 12:48 PM

    DS – Its not any more inflammatory then just wearing being alive to the muslims

  • Frum Satire March 4, 2009, 12:51 PM

    Phil I have heard of plenty of white folks being members of the NAACP

  • Tuvia March 4, 2009, 12:52 PM

    hahaha thats awesome, thanks I needed a good laugh after the rough day at work so far

  • Phil March 4, 2009, 12:53 PM

    Hesh,

    That freakin Moscato skyrocketed just in time for the holidays. My wife bought a case last year, we paid about $12 per bottle. This year they jumped to $18 per bottle, despite transport rates being less than half of what they were last year and the US dollar being 30% stronger.

    They should have gone down to $9 per bottle. Dang price gouging on glorified gingerale.

  • Phil March 4, 2009, 12:56 PM

    Mother in law says they refused her. My guess is probably because she’s from South Africa, they assumed she was a racist and trying to infiltrate their ranks.

    Funny thing is that she’s a total liberal anti racist Obama supporter. Whenever she calls me racist, I remind her of the houskeepers/slaves they owned 30 years ago.

  • LP March 4, 2009, 1:06 PM

    Phil, Phil, Phil…

    I don’t see anything offensive about it. I agree, all races eat watermelon.

  • yingerman March 4, 2009, 1:27 PM

    hey do sabras and avate’ach (watermelon) mix?

  • Talmudist March 4, 2009, 2:06 PM

    I figured it was coming after the grape soda-kippah was fizzled out.

  • Speak Truth to Power March 4, 2009, 2:22 PM

    @Phil: Two wrongs don’t make a right.

  • cady March 4, 2009, 4:45 PM

    > thats the rind

    Then it belongs in between the green and red. Did the person who designed this never actually see a slice before? That looks really weird that way.

  • suitepotato March 4, 2009, 4:49 PM

    There’s nothing racist about Jews, who tend to be kind of pasty white if you haven’t noticed, wearing a kippah that looks like a watermelon. I think it’s very cool. I crocheted one that looks like a bloodshot eye that my wife gets a big kick out of. Also, a red and white striped “Where’s Waldo” one, a bright safety orange one, and for her one with glittery foil thread in it.

    I’m thinking of making one like a grapefruit.

  • Anonymous March 4, 2009, 5:25 PM

    Phil
    Busted
    “Maybe its those long line ups at the welfare / unemployment office”
    how dare you call your comments “fair” and “objective” that quote is proof your a racist

  • Michal bas Avraham March 4, 2009, 6:44 PM

    Yeah, it’s not offensive. It’s watermelon, not fried chicken…

    When I lived in a black neighborhood, they would cut me in line at the grocery and if I said something it was, “your ancestors enslaved our ancestors.” If only I were Jewish from birth, I could have said, “um you have that backwards….” I wasn’t even trying to convert at the time.

  • Phil March 4, 2009, 7:21 PM

    Anon,

    Duh… I never called my comments fair or objective, nor did I ever claim not to be a racist.

    I was being sarcastic about the colt 45 and unemployment office for anyone too dumb to notice.

    Since you’re so “bright” would you like to explain to us why it’s OK for blacks to make fun of each other and even whites, yet if we dare mention chicken, watermelons, monkeys or lynchings, we have riots and 72 hour marathons of Al Sharpton bitching to Larry King.

    • Moshe December 16, 2009, 4:30 PM

      I guess you are French Canadian. Have you looked at your face lately? Are you jewish or another chicken French Canadian ? I am a black Hebrew not Jewish, the two are different, idiot! If your race would be the world’s dominating power in a few years, maybe china would still be gnashing her teeth. You are so pale that the disease of a drunk is written all over your face, once again, you are an idiot!

      • Phil December 16, 2009, 9:40 PM

        Moshe (if that’s your real name),

        I’m actually an anglophone, but I wouldn’t expect an ignorant dumbass like yourself to know that there are a couple million anglophones in Quebec.

        Another thing, Hebrew is a language, not a race or religion, just as Ebonics. Calling yourself a black Hebrew makes about as much sense as calling yourself a black yiddish.

  • Ann March 4, 2009, 7:37 PM

    It’s just a kipa, its not like it says “Recommended for..”

  • White Anonymous chick March 4, 2009, 7:42 PM

    Oh Phil,
    It’s because all they are good at is being a bully and having kids so that they outnumber us and can bully us even better. Why shouldn’t they just have all the kids they want? Everything is supported by taxpayer dollars. The only reason why one of them got in office is because they outnumber the rest of us from all the monkey love.

    Besides, all these people feel pressured that they have to prove they are not racist.

  • Veebee March 4, 2009, 8:09 PM

    Have you ever eaten a watermelon before? It goes red-white-green. Not red-green-white.

    Sue the Kippah maker!

  • Phil March 4, 2009, 8:49 PM

    You’d think that once they got their black president they might actually be happy for a change, seems like they’re even more pissed off now, though I can’t figure out why.

    These enlightened geniuses have no problem doing a million man march with that Jew hater fukrakan, nor having sharpton leading them into riots such as the Crown Heights pogrom a few years ago.

    Then one white guy says the pronounces the so called “N word”, and it’s worse than the “F word”, they somehow turn it into an excuse to rob and loot.

    And we’re the bad guys for painting a watermelon on a kippah!

  • Speak Truth to Power March 4, 2009, 10:36 PM

    This piece has exposed some really ugly sentiments 🙁

  • Yossi G. March 5, 2009, 9:22 AM

    it’s only racist if you wear it with a shirt that has a fried-chicken- design print on it.

  • OrthoEbonyJewessNJ March 5, 2009, 3:46 PM

    First off – Contrary to popular belief, not all Black people or African Americans like watermelon. I for one, hate it. I have never thought it tasted good. Seeing it on a kippah is not offensive at all. Lets all remember that there is a lot of bad blood between African Americans and Jews….its unfortunate because people like me get caught in the middle. Seeing watermelon on an item of clothing associated with Jews, would probably make people feel (and I’m only generalizing here) that they’re being belittled in someway. Do I know that for certain? No because again I don’t take offense.

    Second, I can’t believe some of the garbage I’m reading by the racists who have posted on this blog. The actions of one “ghetto” group of individuals does not portray how individuals like myself act or live my life. Ever heard of upper class and middle class educated African Americans? They do exists!

    Third, Phil you are a blatant racist. The term “Shvartza” is an extremely racist term. If you want to refer to me, an African American Orthodox Jewish woman, you should refer to me as I described above not as a shvarta. It’s very offensive and YES, I’m offended because you are a racist. I certainly hope YOU are not Jewish! If you are, it is because of people like you that Hashem will not banish anti-semitism from this world. You can’t ask for it to end if you hate another group of people.

  • Phil March 5, 2009, 4:23 PM

    Ebony,

    First of all, I never claimed not to be racist. I have a deep inherent hatred for Arabs, as my dad and his family were persecuted by them for centuries. I also hate Europeans, as they murdered most of my maternal grandfather’s family and my ancestors suffered immensly there too. In fact, Israel’s biggest enemies today are Europeans and Arabs, so they are at the bottom of my list.

    I also have a problem with many blacks that are muslim or simply racist / anti white. I’m not trying to generalize and say that they are all bad, but there is a good reason that people living in black areas like Crown Heights need to have Shmira and Shomrim, and it not because of Jews.

    Second thing is that the term “shvartze” means black in yiddish. Just as I have no problems calling people black, I have no problems calling them shvartzes either. What I do have a problem with, is black people that insist on other people calling them African Americans when they aren’t. My dad is from North Africa and my wife is from South Africa. If anything, they are more African American than most blacks in the US today.

    Third, people will always hate Jews no matter what. It’s halacha, Eisav hates Yaakov. Liberal minded idiots think that they can actually make non Jews into Jew lovers, but they are gravely mistaken. Every time Jews ever did well in a given region, someone eventually came along as an instigator and in no time the entire local population turned on the Jews. This started with Yaakov and Lavan, and happened in Egypt, Israel, the middle east, spain, and more recently in eastern Europe.

    I have nothing against Jews no matter what color or race they are. If someone converted properly and is an observant Jew, I know that I won’t suffer any anti semitism from them, therefore I have no reason to hate them.

    To summarize, I would refer to you as a Jew, regardless of whether you are man or woman, black or white, African or Jamaican.

    PS. Are you actually from Africa?

  • OrthoEbonyJewessNJ March 5, 2009, 6:20 PM

    Phil,

    Wow! That is a tremendous amount of hatred I sincerely hope that all the energy you exude to hate people doesnt take away from your performing mitzvoth.

    I also have a problem with Muslims who espouse hatred for Caucasians, but you dont hear me saying anything bigoted about them.

    I am perfectly aware of what the term shvartze means. It is the context in which it is used that I have a problem. Every time Ive heard it used, it was in a derogatory sense because of this, it is now the equivalent of calling someone the N word. You may not agree, but it is what it is. If you dont want me or someone else to call you on its use, stop using the term.

    Where I come from is immaterial. I can, however, tell you every tribe that my family came from in Africa and I can tell you about the European side of my background as well. If I choose to call myself African American, it is my prerogative. Do I consider myself black? No, and if you really want to get technical I have brown skin or better yet, I have a coco complexion.

    Please tell me HOW you would know that Im JewishI can wear a sheital, a long skirta shirt covering my collarbone and elbows while standing with my husband and son who both wear kippot and tzitzis and you STILL would not think I was Jewish. I am certain that you would go off on your bigoted rant without knowing or recognizing that I am a Jew – So, you can say that you wouldnt hate me, however, your previous comments speak for themselves.

    Lastly, I describe myself as an AA Jew because without adding the AA people would presume that I am Caucasian on blogs. Do I go around telling people Im an AA Jew? NO, Im Jewish and thats it. Im happy to hear though that you would only consider me as a Jew. Thats very big of you.

  • Phil March 5, 2009, 7:47 PM

    Ebony,

    My dislike of certain races doesn’t hinder me one bit. In fact,it makes me feel happy that I’m Jewish and not one of them.

    You can take the word black or shvartze any way you wish, that is none of my business. I for one will not call blacks “African Americans” for reasons I’ve already explained. Furthermore, I live in Canada, so the blacks here aren’t African or American. You can call yourself African or even cleopatra if it makes you happy.

    As for geting technical about sking color, Obama seemed to have no trouble passing himself of as black when it was convenient for him even though he is barely light brown. So are Halle Berry, Beyonce, Michael Jackson and many others.

    Whether or not I knew you were Jewish if I saw you in the street is irrelevant. I don’t go around beating up black people or calling them names. I simply avoid social contact with them, as I would with arabs and many others.

    I respect any true convert, as you’ve decided to follow the true path and made an effort to change your life. As such, your skin color has become irrelevant (to me).

  • chevramaidel March 6, 2009, 2:20 AM

    Racists always say that ”schvartze” only means black. True- when you say, ”ich hob a schvartze hut”- I have a black hat (and I bet you do!)- all you mean is black. But the thing is, when you use that word to refer to people, the way you say it, it sounds a lot like n_____ to me. If you know enough English to read this, you can learn one more word. BLACK. Keep it simple.
    And if you can’t be proud of being Jewish without calling other people ugly names, it sounds like you don’t really like being Jewish much at all. Saying you’re proud to be a racist puts you in a league with those who hate us just as much as they hate African-Americans.

  • Findalis March 6, 2009, 2:27 AM

    One good thing about wearing that, no black girls are ever going to want to date you.

  • Phil March 6, 2009, 8:49 AM

    Chevarmaidel,

    There you go twisting my words again, I never said I was “proud” to be racist, it’s simply what I am. Obviously, there are different definitions of racism too. I don’t go around killing, beating, antagonizing blacks.

    Yes, I might make a joke about them, or might even think many of them are inferior tp us spiritually, and more often than not, morally. This is FACT, not a figment of my imagination.

    To illustrate, Judaism has very different laws applicable to Jews and non Jews when it comes to dealing with one another. Take the laws relating to murder as an example. A Jew that intentinally murders a non Jew is not liable for the death penalty as if he murdered another Jew. In contrast, a non Jew is liable for death if he murdered a Jew.

    Morally and practically, blacks have a much higher violent criminal element than Jews. Look at any mug shot volumes in your local NY City police station and count how many black shots are in there versus the amount of Jews. Look at the prisons and penitantiaries.

    Their culture glorifies violence, just look at all the street gangs and rap / hip hop artists glorifying crime and jail.

    Again, I’m not saying all blacks are criminals, I’m just saying they have a much higher proportion than we do.

    Furthermore, the majority of blacks hate Jews. Many are muslims, or followers of famous black anti semites such as fukrakan, Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. Learn a lesson rom the Crown Heights pogrom, where blacks from all over NYC came to riot, loot and kill Jews, using a traffic accident as the excuse to cover up their hatred towards us. Where were all the “educated” or “cultured” Jew loving blacks then?

    Like I said before, any one that can fool themselves into believing that non Jews love us in general, hasn’t learned any lessons from our history over the past 3000 years. Yes, there were a few goyim that stuck there necks out for us, and yes there are probably thousands that would do so today. But there are many more billions that would just as well see us all dead.

    Judaism recognizes this, that is why the laws concerning goyim are different. Jews aren’t allowed to sell goyim weapons, and according to many opinions, can never put themselves at the slightest risk near them.

    The Rambam brings down not bending down in front of a non Jew , lest the guy smash his skull. He also brings down not having a non Jew cut a Jew’s hair, as the Jew would be in a vulnerable position with a blade near his neck.

    Jews were commanded by God to annihilate all the nations living in Canaan, including women and children. For those of you that may not know, most were black too. Apparantly, we did a decent job of getting rid of them at the time, you don’t see too many native blacks living in Israel today.

    If Yehoshua Bin Nun had no problem slaughtering all those goyim, and halacha specifically tells us not to trust them, who are any of you to say that they are our equals?

    If you believe that we are equal, why bother becoming Jewish or religious?

  • OrthoEbonyJewessNJ March 6, 2009, 9:42 AM

    Thank you Chevramaidel for your comments.

    Phil, you can be as racist as you want to be, but please do not try to justify it.

    I will address your comment; thereafter, I refuse to engage in further conversation with you about this subject. I am very strong willed and will not acquiesce to your idiotic sense of supremacy.

    “You can take the word black or shvartze any way you wish, that is none of my business. I for one will not call blacks “African Americans” for reasons I’ve already explained. Furthermore, I live in Canada, so the blacks here aren’t African or American. You can call yourself African or even cleopatra if it makes you happy.”

    No, it IS your business because you’re the one who said it. If you call me a shvartze I AM going to take it the WAY you meant it to be taken. In the context in which you used it, it meant “N”. Like I previously mentioned, if you have a problem with me saying something about it, stop using the word. I think it’s funny that people like you throw around that term when you think one of us isn’t in the room. Surprise!! We’re in places you would never think.

    “As for geting technical about sking color, Obama seemed to have no trouble passing himself of as black when it was convenient for him even though he is barely light brown. So are Halle Berry, Beyonce, Michael Jackson and many others.”

    What other people do or how they choose to refer to themselves has nothing to do with how I refer to myself.

    “Whether or not I knew you were Jewish if I saw you in the street is irrelevant. I don’t go around beating up black people or calling them names. I simply avoid social contact with them, as I would with arabs and many others.”

    This point is very relevant! You said in your previous post “I have nothing against Jews no matter what color or race they are. If someone converted properly and is an observant Jew, I know that I won’t suffer any anti semitism from them, therefore I have no reason to hate them.”

    Did you read your own comment? You said if someone (regardless of race) is an observant Jew you would not fear anti-semitism so you would not hate them. Again, my question is – HOW would you know that I’m Jewish? Despite my attire, you would make your decision purely based on my skin color. To say this point is irrelevant, is ridiculous.

    “I respect any true convert, as you’ve decided to follow the true path and made an effort to change your life. As such, your skin color has become irrelevant (to me).”

    Also not true – and you should never assume that any and everyone with brown skin converted to Judaism.

  • Phil March 6, 2009, 10:02 AM

    Ebony,

    You seem to still be confused as to what I’m trying to say. If I knew you were an Orthodox Jew, I’d have no problem letting my kids hang around with yours, no matter how black they are. In contrast, I wouldn’t let my kids play the the “hoods” down the road, as I know they are a bad influence in regards to morals, tznius, drugs, etc.

    When I see school 12 year old black kids smoking up and making out in public, I know they aren’t from yeshiva. I don’t assume any blacks to be Jews unless I know them or see them in shul.

    Ask yourself an honest question. As a black Jewish woman, would you be more afraid walking alone around at 2:00 AM in Harlem, Compton or Borough Park?

    You don’t need to answer, I already know.

  • OrthoEbonyJewessNJ March 6, 2009, 10:17 AM

    Look Dude, you can’t speak for me. Please don’t pretend like you would know what I’d do.

    I would not be caught walking in any of those areas at 2:00am.

  • Michal bas Avraham March 6, 2009, 10:30 AM

    How about Lakewood, would walk around Lakewood at 2am?

  • Phil March 6, 2009, 10:40 AM

    Ebony,

    You know what I mean’t, but I’ll refrase it just because:

    In which of those areas would you be more likely to experience fear in, if your car broke down there at 2:00 AM nad you were alone without a working cel phone?

    Or how about if you were in the same scenario in Crown Heights. Would you be more likely to flag down a yeshiva bochur for help, or some of the local black teens?

  • OrthoEbonyJewessNJ March 6, 2009, 11:06 AM

    I would be fearful in all of those areas quite frankly and for different reasons. I would be a young attractive woman walking alone at 2 am!

    If I broke down in…

    Crown Heights & Lakewood – I would be quite skeptical about flagging down a yeshiva bocher bacause of racial tension. And, honestly, if they see me as the enemy, would they help me anyway?

    Harlem & Comptom – I would probably fare alot better in these places because I’m not caucasian. But I wouldn’t want to be stuck there either.

    Now, I’m done.

    Shabbat Shalom!!

  • Phil March 6, 2009, 11:19 AM

    Ebony,

    I admire your honesty. BTW, my wife and kids love watermelon and fried chicken and were as white as white can be. I don’t know where the stereotype came from, nor why black people get offended by it. I wouldn’t be offended if a black guy wore a bagel or gefilte fish T shirt…

    Have a good Shabbos.

  • Mark March 6, 2009, 5:06 PM

    Crown Heights & Lakewood – I would be quite skeptical about flagging down a yeshiva bocher because of racial tension. And, honestly, if they see me as the enemy, would they help me anyway?

    That may be so (and I agree that they might choose to not help a black skinned woman, of course, I bet they wouldn’t help me either in my kippah serugah, and I bet they wouldn’t help my wife either if she were wearing pants – so it’s probably not solely a skin color thing), however, there is almost zero chance of them hurting you in any way, attempting to mug you, or molest you.

    Harlem & Compton – I would probably fare a lot better in these places because Im not Caucasian. But I wouldnt want to be stuck there either.

    But in this case, there is a chance that you might be hurt (despite your black skin), mugged, or molested.

    And therein lies a huge difference.

    Also, I’ve been wondered about something. Why is it that if people want to be judged solely by the quality of their character (or their blog posts/comments, or whatever) rather than the color of their skin (or their religious affiliation, or whatever) that they so often choose to so strongly identify themselves with just that characteristic that they think ought not be used as judgment? Especially in semi-anonymous situations.

  • OrthoEbonyJewessNJ March 7, 2009, 7:31 PM

    Shavua tov!

    Mark, I see your point, but neither of us really knows what would happen in either situation. We can only speculate.

    I only identify as an AA Jew when I feel it’s important to have a different perspective on a subject. As for why other people do it, I have no idea.

  • Homey March 7, 2009, 9:57 PM

    33% of blacks have had some problem with the law at one point in their lives (in Washington, D.C. it’s 50%).

    I generally don’t like black people, and I fear them for the most part, especially the Bloods and Crips brands. I judge them not by the color of their skin but by the content of their character (that’s a quote straight out of the famous womanizer Dr. Martin Luther King Jr).

    Disclaimer: Halle Berry is smokin hot even though she’s black.

  • Phil March 7, 2009, 11:49 PM

    Mark,

    I don’t think you should assume that you or your wife wouldn’t be helped by frummies just because of a different kippah or her wearing pants.

    You know the old story about the guy that was driving in Brooklyn, sees a guy with a yarmulka trying to get help for a flat tire. When he gets out, he noticed the guy was wearing a necklace with a cross. When he asks the guy what’s going on, he finds out the guy is an Italian who’s dad told him to always keep a yarmulka in the glove compartment in case the car beaks down, said it was sure to get him helpfaster than AAA. Sure enough, it worked.

    Unfortunately for blacks, most of their role models are thugs. From Snoop Dog and Fifty cents, to Dennis Rodman and Charles Barkley, to “educated” characters like Sharpton, Fukrakan and Jesse Jackson. Add the fact that many whites are prejudiced against them, including some in the justice system, it’s no wonder that a so many of them end up in prison.

    Enter Obama, the black messiah here to bring change and save the day. Starts off by erasing much of the work Bush did, then gives away tons of money he doesn’t have, to a bunch of multimillinaire bankers that threw big parties with it, so what’ his answer? He throws his own lavish party at the White House with taxpayer money, bringning in entertainers like Stevie Wonder while the rest of hard working Americans are suffering, losing jobs and watching their economy sink down the toilet.

    If this is the latest role model for black Americans, you’re in bigger trouble than ever before.

  • Mark March 8, 2009, 2:23 AM

    I dont think you should assume that you or your wife wouldnt be helped by frummies just because of a different kippah or her wearing pants.

    I think the Chabadnikim in CH might help us, but the charedim in Boro Park or Lakewood would almost definitely not, heck they don’t even want to help us in stores where we are buying stuff from them!!!

  • Phil March 8, 2009, 9:47 AM

    Mark,

    OK, probably true. used to work for a Satmar years ago, they had a winter minyan for work every day. They kept asking this non frum guy to daven there even though they refused to count him as part of the minyan. To many of them, anyone different is simply a “goy”.

    You store story reminds me of this Meah Shearim bookstore I visited around noon one Friday when visiting Israel. First, the owner completely ignored me, then when I finally asked him for a book, he showed me one and told me I had to decide right away as he was closing. When I said I wasn’t sure, he took the book and escorted me out the door, slamming and locking it behind me.

    Anyway, my original point to ebony wasn’t whether or not she would actually get help, it was more based on who she would fear to ask.

  • Chris_B March 8, 2009, 1:55 PM

    Phil,

    “Kikes need to relax a bit more, they seem to get pissed off and over react at the slightest thing.”

    “Their culture glorifies crime, just look at all the swindlers and child molesting Rabbis.”

    Fixed those for you. I could google up some bits from Protocols to go with but that might be a bit much, right?

    I’m pretty darn sure I shouldnt have done that and wont be surprised or upset if this comment gets removed. If you’d apologized or backed down after the first bit I dont think my stomach would be twisted up right now but your continued bile is just sickening.

    I’m well aware you know far more halacha than me and that theres probably alot I can learn from you but it just becomes so hard to listen over stuff like this. Please please please if you cant learn to get past it, at least keep it to yourself.

    Also for what its worth your story about your mother in law is played out. Give it up already.

  • Phil March 8, 2009, 2:30 PM

    Chris,

    You’re analogy is totally false for the following reasons:

    1) While blacks will get riled up and start rioting or looting (just like the arabs), we Jews are more civil. Yeah, you might get a quack at the ADL that’ll bitch every time someone says something, but it’s generally not the rule. Over millenia of persecution Jews have grown a thick skin.

    2) If you actually think Jewish culture glorifies crime, you still have much to learn. Nowhere will you find halacha justifying crime, we are even commanded to follow the law of the land unless the given law singles out and persecutes Jews. Any rabbis that steal, molest or do any other crimes are not only criminals, but sinners as well. Contrast that to the black kids eating up gangsta rap and acting it out by murdering each other by the thousands for silly things like sneakers and spinning rims. When was the last time you saw a lubab or belzer kill another one over a Borsalino or shtreimel?

    The mother in law story was brought up as the original title to this post was “NAACP calls for boycott” not “black leaders”, so I responded with the NAACP story. Hesh must have changed it somewhere down the line.

    For the record, I wasn’t the one that started this crap. I made a couple comments jokingly, Ebony took them seriously freaked out.

    I simply answered to her comments, one at a time, the way I always do. By now, you should already know that I’ll say or write what’s on my mind. While everyone is entitled to their opinion, I’m also entitled not to give a hoot.

  • BTL March 8, 2009, 11:35 PM

    Man, I am literally laughing out loud!!!

    It took me a few seconds to figure out why they would be offended. Then I just started laughing.

    A picture sure tells a thousand words. One of the funniest posts of yours.

    Only an American Jew would get his post.

  • Chris_B March 9, 2009, 2:07 AM

    Phil,

    Of course it was false, just like yours was in my opinion. Point being that negative stereotypes exist and do no good. Today being Purim, the trouble in the story of Esther comes from a slander right?

    Your “joke” wasnt funny this time or any other time you have brought that garbage out. Would you have the world judge all Jews by your attitude?

    It wasnt that long ago that Jews had no citizenship rights in Europe or even the USA. Maybe thats why even less time in the past Jews were part of the Civil Rights movement to get equal rights for Black Americans.

  • Phil March 9, 2009, 8:09 AM

    Chris,

    Again, I never said all blacks were like that, simply a disproportional number when compared to us.

    As far as jokes, you and I obviously have a different sense of humor. Why should it be OK for Hesh or any of us to poke fun at each other using stereotypes of various Jewish sects, yet the second I say anything about blacks, gays or transgender’s, you get all the bleeding heart liberals screaming bloody murderer?

    If you or anyone else don’t appreciate racist humour, you shouldn’t be reading this blog. Most of the posts here poke fun at all varieties of religious Jews and their beliefs, including chassidim, snags, ashkenazim, sefardim and BT’s.

    Why is it OK to make fun of the way a rabbi shuckles, davens or wears his hat, but not when some yeshiva dude decides to take it up the ass or slice off his weeny?

    Are we being judgemental? Yes. Does it harm anyone? I highly doubt it. It’s all in fun and good humour. Yeah, you’ll get a few pissed off individuals every now and then, but you can’t please everyone all the time.

    As far as I know, Jews always enjoyed citizenship priviliges in the US, we even had rabbis that fought in the civil war. If a few Jews decided to assist blacks during the 60s, good for them.

    Following your logic, I suppose that that we should “embrace” our terrorist Hamas or Al Qaeda cousins just like the liberal fags from peace now do. Let’s march against our brothers in the IDF to show “solidarity” with the poor, oppressed palestinians, and stop stereotyping them as suicide bombers, and see them for what they really are: peaceful intelectuals that want only to live in peace and harmony with us. Let’s take away funding from yeshivas and poor Jews and give it to abbas to buy some more kassams and other peaceful weapons, which they will only use to make peace with us.

    And then I’m the one accused of “bringing out garbage”!

  • Chris_B March 9, 2009, 12:12 PM

    Phil,

    Nice use of the “according to your idea” method. You take a refresher course in Message Board Trolling today?

  • Phil March 9, 2009, 12:33 PM

    Chris,

    Not sure what you mean. The only trolling I do is with fishing rods off my boat.

  • Omri April 5, 2009, 5:35 AM

    That is hysterical! As a person who owns and wears that kippah once in a while, I am rolling on the floor. Too funny!

  • Frum Satire April 5, 2009, 10:14 AM

    I own one but haven’t worn it in years

  • All you need is love April 5, 2009, 5:20 PM

    Hi all,
    first of all I should say I am Black, not Jewish and live in London UK.
    I came across this site by chance and have been reading alot of the postings this is my first time commenting.
    Phil you have been the motivation for me to comment.
    In the UK we have Black British, in USA you have Italian American, Irish American therefore African Americans.IE the descendants of the African slaves taken to America.
    You say you hate Europeans because they killed alot of your family, well if you take that line Black people should hate Whites because of slavery!
    Slavery was a very profitable business, as is the incarcination of Black males.IE more is spent on keeping them in prison than spent on their eduacation.
    I do believe that the average buyer of hip hop music is infact white male teenagers.
    I could go on and on but really there is no point as I doubt if you are open to examning your view point and changing.
    Finally I would say I have suffered some really horrific incidents in my life and it would be all too easy to HATE x y and z.
    It takes time and alot of praying but eventually I let go and forgive whoever, just send it all back to them with peace and love.
    I hate being judged just on the colour of my skin.
    Judge me for my actions and what is in my heart rather than generalization of my race.

  • shakah January 29, 2011, 2:07 PM

    First of all, you idiots are soooooo dumb! You all act like you know the whole African American history. Did you Jews, whites, even think that our role models are snoop DoG! If you are not the dumbest people on this website! The bible says, correct loudly. WE black people are not going to sit back and let some insecure bunch of sick white people push us around! We complain because we have something to complain about! It is too bad that white people are soooo jealous of black people. Haven;t you Jews and gentiles notice that every nation that you all have touched, it turned upside down? It sounds like the devil to me! And for the person who says they are a black Jew, you are black just like the African Americans, the Jamaicans, Ethiopians, Egyptians and the whole black race. White people don’t like blacks because they are not black. And they are scared of us. Sounds like pussies to me. If they were superior, it would have said it in the bible. Take Mirriam for example, God turned her white as a curse for coming against Moses for marrying Zipporah.

  • Orthoebonyjewess January 29, 2011, 4:29 PM

    Shakah, why do you feel the need to post such nonsense on this website? You are entitled to your opinion; however, as a Jew (African American, specifically), I take serious offense to what you’ve posted here. We, Jews, did not go to any of your (Christian) websites making any pejorative comments. What is your purpose here? I hope you realize that when you insult “white” Jews, you are insulting my family and other Jews like me as well. With that said, please keep your rediculous comments to yourself and frequent your own websites. To everyone else, this moron is fair game!

    • Findalis January 29, 2011, 4:34 PM

      Why bother? Idiots like these don’t warrant response. They are too busy hating white and Jewish people to ever look into themselves or around them for the truth.

      Funny as it sounds, Judaism has no color, no race. All is welcome regardless.

  • Youxia June 18, 2012, 6:18 PM

    I hate how every black comes on here and trashes whites and Jews calling them h*nkey and k*ke. Damn stupid apes!

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