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Where do you take your dates and how to judge them

When I heard about the lemon shidduch date frumkeit test I almost peed myself. This is when you are sitting in a hotel lobby and the girl orders a diet coke, does she tell them not to put a slice of lemon in her drink or not? If she ignores the slice of lemon in her drink she is not frum enough because obviously the lemon was cut with a treife knife and therefore she is eating non kosher. This can be done at starbucks as well, I mean how many people do you know who actually ask if their drink is kosher before they drink it, not many, because well “someone told them it was kosher” kind of like the “I saw it at so and so’s shalom zachor” or something of the sort.

Here is an old video I just found of me ranting about the topics listed above, and some crazy tangents thrown in. Please visit my You Tube page for more.

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  • suitepotato December 2, 2008, 5:58 PM

    If she doesn’t ignore the lemon, what further levels of frumkeit might be subdivided?

    Mentions the lemon and asks you if the lemon is treif and you’re not in a position to pasken. ? pts.

    Mentions the lemon and flat out says she shouldn’t risk it. ? pts.

    Then removes the lemon herself. ? pts.

    Asks you to remove the lemon for her. ? pts.

    Mentions the lemon but doesn’t broach the subject of its propriety there. ? pts.

    This is getting silly…

  • ~ Sarah ~ December 2, 2008, 6:05 PM

    this post reminds me of a date i went on where the guy ordered mineral water/seltzer and refused to let the waiter pour the cold drink into the cold glass cup provided. instead, this guy insisted he have a straw to drink straight from the bottle. it was quite embarassing.

    oh wait, maybe there was a slice of lemon in the glass…

  • Crawling Axe December 2, 2008, 6:50 PM

    I heard from one girl who went out with a guy who had white strings attached to the corners of his undershirt, which were just hanging out. He was also wearing a little round hat and just refused to have a cheeseburger, like some kind of fundamentalist. It was, she said, quite embarrassing.

    OK, I confess, I made it up. Why, however, is it ridiculous for us to imagine a Jew keeping one aspect of Torah, but not so regarding another?

    Any milchig drink in StarkBucks is treif, by the way.

  • coolyiddishemama December 2, 2008, 7:01 PM

    Your rant about shiddukh dating inspired me to make another “test”. Go to my blog and read “Another Shiddukh Test”.

  • Zach December 2, 2008, 9:21 PM

    This is truly insane. Cold is no concern at all. People need to start learning the halachos of kashrut, and stop being so retarded.

    BTW, J2 charges $3.50 a slice now.

  • Frum Satire December 2, 2008, 10:06 PM

    Well I refuse to pay even $3 a slice so screw J2

  • Rick December 2, 2008, 10:46 PM

    Which J2 are you speaking of exactly? The one on Avenue M is still 2.50 as most stores in brooklyn. Thats my limit I dont pay more either. Havent set a foot in Mendelsohns or pizza time since their 3 buck crap.

  • Mikeinmidwood December 2, 2008, 11:04 PM

    J2 on J is also 2.50.

  • Zach December 3, 2008, 8:42 AM

    J2 in Times Sq.

  • Left Brooklyn December 3, 2008, 9:36 AM

    This one is new to me though I have been out of the dating scene for awhile.

    It never ceases to amaze me what the frummies will come up with next. Every time I read something likes this and after I stop laughing I realize how blessed I am that I am Jewish and not Frum.

  • jennthejewess December 3, 2008, 2:18 PM

    My friends Dad is a Rav and he says that you can eat the lemon or any other fruit garnishes on drinks in bars and lounges since they only use the knives to cut fruit not used for cooking

  • Chris_B December 5, 2008, 3:06 AM

    I’m so glad I’m married!

    AFAIK jennthejewess is right. Bar/counter knives are not the same ones as those used by cooks or food prep staff. Usually a bar knife is a longer thin serrated knife while a kitchen knife is, well, a kitchen knife.

    Anyway by the same “may have touched” logic, is accidental shatnez possible?

  • Puzzled July 7, 2009, 2:35 PM

    I was recently listening to a shiur about basar b’chalav and the rabbi asked “what is the good thing about the recession?” When no one answered, he said “people might take the time to learn the halachos of kashrut.” He then went on to explain that too many people today think it’s a halachic requirement to have two sinks, two ovens, etc., or, even worse, will say about someone who has one oven and one sink “well, I hold at a higher level of kashrus than they do” rather than saying “I avoid having to think things through.” Anyway, the story about pouring seltzer into a cup reminded me of that.

    JenntheJewess – what does he say about the concern that the knife might have been put into a hot dishwasher? Is it nosem tam lifgam because of the dishwasher detergent? I’ve also seen restaurants put dishes and utensils in large sinks and spray hot water over them. Isn’t this a concern? Yes, I realize the lemon is cold, but you’re pressing with the knife and the lemon is a davar charif. Besides, regarding a knife, aren’t we supposed to assume it is dirty rather than clean?

  • Darcy April 8, 2010, 4:54 AM

    What makes this even sillier is that in all likelihood the drink was prepared at the bar. The bartender probably cut up all the lemon and lime and orange wedges himself at the beginning of the evening. The only things the knife was used was the afore-mentioned citrus. So how is this a treife knife? Because it probably was never toiveled?!

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