Then you can bring tear gas and stab someone…
Vos is Neias reports that a man in Israel showed up at a birthday party of a three year old armed with tear gas and stabbed someone because he was bothered by the mixed seating. I can just imagine what would happen at a yeshiva prom.
So what now, the tznius police have gone underground and splinter forces are popping up in random places ;like Meron. I highly doubt that Shimon Bar Yochai would approve, although I am sure he probably went mad from sitting in the cave, he probably didn’t start stabbing people for dressing untznius or attending events with mixed seating.
What is the world coming to, when men start stabbing people over tznius or mixed seating?
Doesn’t murder receive a much worse punishment then untznius which is completely subjective anyway. I am shocked as you should be.
Whats next?
Man brings shotgun to store selling TV’s because frum people walked by…
Women stabs man with challah knife for looking into the women’s section during a shalom zachor
Yeshiva guy strangles man with washing cup chain for wearing blue shirt to shul
Chossid guns down mehadrin bus driver for asllowing women to sit in front, then shoots all women in ten block radius
Mashgiach kills non-Jewish workers for requesting that brocolli be served, claims that the work involved made him crazy
Man goes on rampage with steam roller because women should not drive
Shul burned by angry mob because its mechitza was removable
Grafiti saying “30 tefuchim is not enough” spraypainted on upper west side shul
Man brings shotgun to singles event because he says its either the shotgun or the shadchun
Ok that last one may have been a little over the edge.
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It should be banned on the busses, separate seating, that is. You only need it in shuls and pools.
A little mixing in cultural and social events would be better than some rediculous conversations….
I hear that stabbings lead to mixed seating… at the funerals.
Unfortunately your satire here is already with us. Here in Israel we have single sex buses, sidewalks, shops in the Hareidi neighborhood next door to where I live…..
I know one kid whos going off the D. Imagine if your birthday got ruined by a nut with a knife.
The answer is burkas (however you spell it). Men have gotten so weak that they can not control their yetza hara so the women must be protected. The tznius police have a roll, just look at the Taliban or Saudi Arabia!
>I hear that stabbings lead to mixed seating… at the funerals.
Well, mixed seating at funerals makes sense. Sex is one of the best cures against depression.
>Chossid guns down mehadrin bus driver for asllowing women to sit in front, then shoots all women in ten block radius.
Actually, a better one is a chossid running into a barbershop and attacking beard- and peyos-shavers.
But seriously, obviously, the guy is a nutcase. Tznius is no more responsible for this then computer games are responsible for violence. What is responsible for this is lack of ahavas yisroel in some frum communities towards outsiders — which is a proof that in these communities, frumkeit is a way to keep community together, not a connection to G-d (otherwise, they would realize the importance of ahavas yisroel).
Shoot anyone who suggests that Avraham Avinu didn’t learn in Lakewood
Have everyone fitted with shock collars that tznius police can activate by remote if they see the person doing something inappropriate.
Any attempts at tampering or removal will result in an explosion.
That story is very hard to belive, I wonder if it’s actually true. If ti is true, why would he stab another guy, shouldn’y he have stabbed to women instead?
Here is another few for your list:
Man slices other mans penis in mikva, judging his bris wasn’t kosher enough.
Other man gets jailed for shoving lulav up one’s tuchus for farting on front of him during hoshanos.
Yechi dude reprimanded for beating innocent bystander not wearing yechi kippa in 770.
Yeshivish guy batters wife after she attempted to surprise him with dafina instead of chulent.
Chassidic woman runs down Rabbi for banning women in cars.
Ultra orthodox man in prison for bashing a kids teeth for eating a lolypop without a badatz or CRC hechsher.
etc…
Can’t stab the women because of shomer negiah, duh.
It should be banned on the busses, separate seating, that is. You only need it in shuls and pools.
That gives me an idea – how about a pool shul? Shmoneh esrei might be hard to do while treading water, though.
The answer is burkas (however you spell it).
The answer is borekas. Potato filled, yum.
Moshe,
Stabbing a woman isn’t assur under shomer negiah provided the knife is over 3 tefachim.
Anything under would be partial shomer hegiah, kind of like using a condom (latex isn’t mekabel tumah).
True, but, a righteous person will refrain from using a knife even when over 3 tefachim because of maras ayin. Also, if he uses a knife over 3 tefachim, he may, chas veshalom, end up using a shorter knife when a long knife is not available.
i love how he tried to escape “by bus.”
Who is to say that the attacker was not mentally ill?
You are correct future druggie
But what about those guys that beat that old women who sat in the front of a mehadrin bus. Or all the other bleachings, stonings or other terrible things that transpire because not everyone holds from the Charedim
FS one has nothing to do with the other. just cuz he used religion as a pretext doent put him in the same category as them. he’s obviously mentally ill, and they are obviously ignorant, control freaks and wrong
Phil, no man in his right mind would beat his wife over moroccan food!! but i wouldnt want to be there when a sfardi man gets surprised by his wife attempting to serve him gefilte fish…
I find ashkenaz food disgusting and I’m Russian. Dafina and fried fish for us. On holidays, when I’m cooking for 4-6 meals with guests, AB salmon gefilte fish baked in tomato sauce, and that’s the only time.
>I find ashkenaz food disgusting and I’m Russian.
Well, there’s your problem. If you weren’t Russian but was Jewish, maybe you’d find it appealing.
Coming from mixed marriage (vuzvuz mom/couscous dad), I got the best of both worlds, but overall Tunisian food kills Hungarian food by far. Funny enough, Tunisians are known as the most finicky about their food when it comes to Sephardim, Hungarians are the equivalent when it comes to Ashkenazim.
You can only imagine the terrible time I had adapting to Russian / Polish style Jewish food when I lived in a dorm. Hosts always thought there was somthing wrong with their gefilte fish, I used to smother it in chrein, cut it up to make it look like I was interested, but couldn’t force myself to eat it even when drunk. Up to this day, I hardly ever accept invitations to eat out for Shabbos, I live in a Lubavitch neighborhood where tasteless food is pretty much what most eat.
Moshe,
I’ll have to conceed that you win the 3 tefachim knife arguments with the maras ayin thing.
Obviously the guy has too many screws loose.
The Chareidi world blurs lines and doesn’t distinguish between Aseret Dibrot, mitzvot, halachot, minhagim and chumrot. So the think that ss is more serious than murder or physically harming another.
even if the guy was “ill,” he got the idea from somewhere. there’s a continuum of sanity in all societies, and when you preach you’re preaching to all of it.
B”H
I’m not pissed, just annoyed at all of the flack I get for innocently asking if an event is mixed or not.
I’m either “oppressive,” “primitive,” or a “closet case.”
If someone is going to a show which includes inuendo or a movie with questionable content, then I thinks difficult to justify separate seating.
However, at the very minimum, social events which include alcohol and dancing, I
I don’t care how all the MO’s so easily “paskin this away….”
Shabbat dinners? Something to think about….
{OK. The cat’s out of the bag. Everyone knows the real reason I didn’t go to the bloggers’ conference…that, and I had to work.}
I’ll address the appropriateness of mixing it up amongst the genders period another time.
Batya, I completely disagree. I would love to see our Eged no. 148 have separate seating. Remember my theory? Separate seating isn’t for Haredim and Harda”lniks. It’s for everyone else.
Don’t worry. It’ll never happen.
Separate seating on Israeli buses is such a good idea because my neck hurts from always looking around at all the hotties. Cage em all up in one place and its all good for my neck pains.
At least they’re really passionate about something jewish. It may not (read: is not) the best way of expressing it, maybe, but it (usually) beats apathy.
Can’t blame him. Women who go to 3 year olds’ birthday parties are such skanks.
“Man goes on rampage with steam roller because women should not drive”
Scary, I hope he doesn’t come after me when he reads my last post..
Although truth is still haven’t got my license, just warn guys on dates that I plan to.
(Course prob with that is when you go out with the same guy a yr later, and he asks u if u’ve got ur license yet, like u swore to on the last round of dates..)
Yes Heterim it is hard to find passionate Jews
I am so happy I am off the derech. I look at the peasants in Monsey, Boro Park, Meah Shearim, etc. and I cringe to think I was once part of that small minded world. Thank g-d for shining the light down on me and making me realize that the falshkeit practiced today is not a fraction of what Hashem gave us the Torah for. Yes, I believe in Hashem, Yes I believe in Halacha Moshe Mi’Sinai! The rest of it? Well lets just say fact and fiction is so hard to distinguish at this point Orthodox Judaism has become a carricture of itself, at best. The clowns who pretend to be “Rabbonim” nowadays inspire nothing in me except disgust at best and laughter at worst. While the rest of you struggled mired in your guilt ridden angst like charecters in a bad Woody Allen flick, I’ll continue casually checking blogs like this just to confirm that I am better off without you.
Great News!
At the latest conference of European rabbis rav Moshe Shapiro shlita announced that it is now allowed for a female speaker to lecture for a mixed audience at a kiruv event!!!
Wow Daintysplendor- and why would it not be allowed? I have been to plenty of speeches given by women.
Oh it has to be kiruv eh?
“I have been to plenty of speeches given by women. ”
True, but i guess now it’s official and now it probably also counts for an Orthodox rebetzen, not only a NCSY counselor girl.
Sounds good to me