Barack Obama is not U.S. citizen!!!

Now most of you know by now that I am a closet Obama fan when it comes to admitting that I like him in front of any frum people for fear of getting torn a new one and not getting my serving of cholent- but I was just listening to Michael Savage over the internet so that my father wouldn’t have to sit in his car like he does when he stays over. I don’t have an AM radio and he needs his rabid right wing talk radio.

Philip Berg a former assistant district attorney from Pennsylvania was the guest tonight who has brought a lawsuit with allegations that Barack Obama was born in Kenya and not in the United States. This dude is a lifelong liberal Democrat and a card carrying member of the NAACP by the way. He mentioned a bunch of interesting points such as Obama’s failure to release his Columbia University records which may show that Obama received foreign aid.

Allegations are allegations- but this Philip Berg (guaranteed riots against the Jews- if this is true) has said that he will release a tape of Barack Obama’s mother or grandmother saying that she was in the delivery room in Kenya when he was born. Oh I love conspiracies- even if it means Obama will be kicked off the ticket.

So I googled “Obama is not a US citizen” and like Michael Savage said, no major news outlet has picked up this story- which is another conspiracy in itself. What about FOX News or National Review – you would think would have jumped on a story like this. The theory behind this is that the Republican party themselves were working on something similar for their October surprise and are pissed that a Democrat beat them to the punch.

Then again John McCain was born on a Military base along the Panama Canal…

As much as I wanted Obama to win- I for one would like to see the truth come out before the election so we don’t have to deal with another hanging chad style fiasco.

The question for you my dear readers is this:

If the truth comes out and Barack Obama lied about his citizenship, do you think he should be kept on the ballot? Would you vote for him if he was?

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  • http://eety01.blogspot.com Es

    do u think ppl will say that theyll vote for him on here?! they might not get cholent!

  • tuvia

    it doesnt matter where hes Born all the liberal will cry and want him to be president.A few weeks ago i saw a story about OBama brother living in Kenya. its so sad how the liberal media controls public opinion

  • jessica

    I wouldn’t vote for him if he is a US citizen, but he should absolutely not be on the ballot if he’s not a US citizen-Constitution anyone?

  • http://crawlingaxe.blogspot.com Crawling Axe

    >do u think ppl will say that theyll vote for him on here?! they might not get cholent!

    Too much sugar is bad for you.

  • http://crawlingaxe.blogspot.com Crawling Axe

    Let me rephrase this question: If Barack Obama asked you to violate Constitution, would you do it?

    Well, Obama is a felon already (ever heard of Logan Act?), so might as well go all the way. Since the election is between a centrist candidate and a socialist, we might as well get the socialist (the centrist would fuck everything up just the same — but conservatives would be blamed for it), and get it out of our system. He won’t be much worse than Carter…

  • http://crawlingaxe.blogspot.com Crawling Axe

    By the way, last night Michael Savage proposed taking the right to vote from those that don’t pay taxes. No representation without taxation. Makes sense to me, but I would go even further: let your power in voting be proportional to the amount of taxes you pay.

    If the majority wants to abuse some people’s rights and punish them for their success, let those people be rewarded in a larger say in decision-making about the government — the country pretty much runs on the money taken from them by force, but those that get an almost free ride (tax-wise) decide where the money is spent (on them, mostly).

  • http://crawlingaxe.blogspot.com Crawling Axe

    >Then again John McCain was born on a Military base along the Panama Canal…

    One doesn’t have to be born in the US to be a natural-born citizen, as long as one of his parents is a citizen. The problem is that Obama’s mother may not have qualified as being a citizen at the time she gave birth to him. (I mean, not really a problem, if it gets him kicked out, which is doubtful — committing a felony by violating Logan Act didn’t, so no reason why violating Constitution should.)

  • http://www.frumsatire.net Frum Satire

    I must admit that I love Michael Savage- dude is hilarious and what he says is said but true.

  • Anonymous

    Agreed with Jessica.
    Kind of a rhetorical question – ummm, first of all, you need to be a citizen just to vote, let alone be President. Secondly, it’s been the rule forever to be born here to be the freakin’ President.
    This story obviously doesn’t sound true. But if he did lie, who the heck would trust him???

  • http://toratezra.blogspot.com dys

    Do you seriously believe that a guest of Michael Hesh, Savage is a bona fide “democrat”? Come on. The man spews hatred and only has people on who agree with him. I happened to hear the same segment and they then both proceeded to speculate which foreign arab government is behind Obama and his sinister goals. Please! You need to revise your posting title before you mislead more people. There’s a reason that no news outlets have picked up this nonsense.

    Also, do better research than looking at anti-Obama websites. Look at objective sources like Snopes: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp

  • http://toratezra.blogspot.com dys

    Hesh, do you seriously believe that a guest of Michael Savage is a bona fide “democrat”? Come on. The man spews hatred and only has people on who agree with him. I happened to hear the same segment and they then both proceeded to speculate which foreign arab government is behind Obama and his sinister goals. Please! You need to revise your posting title before you mislead more people. There’s a reason that no news outlets have picked up this nonsense.

    Also, do better research than looking at anti-Obama websites. Look at objective sources like Snopes: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp

  • http://crawlingaxe.blogspot.com Crawling Axe

    >But if he did lie, who the heck would trust him???

    The same people that trust him when he lies about everything else. As long as it sounds nice. Hold on, there may be a name for people who believe something to be true just because it sounds nice… Umm… Liberals? Yeah, that sounds about right.

  • Chris_B

    CrawlingAxe,

    Minor correction, lefties are more correctly “liberals” not “Liberals”. This is one case where American English has definitely pooed the scrooch.

  • sam

    Well if Obama can be elected president and he was born in Kenya- why can’t we have The Terminator next? So what if Ah-nold was born in Austria and became a Naturalized citizen?

  • http://welcomebalance.blogspot.com s(b.)

    Don’t be a click-whore, silly. (and I say that with nothing but respect and good nature)
    Have some facts: http://wire.factcheck.org/2008/10/23/obamas-citizenship-and-survival-of-the-fittest/

  • Menachem

    If you’re really an Obama supporter, please read this article in Commentary to understand exactly what and who you’ll be getting.

    Thanks.

    http://www.commentarymagazine.com/viewarticle.cfm/obama-s-leftism-12961

  • http://feinsinisrael.blogspot.com Nate

    Crawling Axe,
    You’re clearly very biased when it comes to this issue, but I’d just like to point out that your assumption about the Natural-Born Citizen clause of Article 2 is not so clear. It’s never been defined what the Constitution means by that, whether it could be as you suggest “to parents of US Citizens” though that doesn’t seem likely to me. What seems more likely to me is that it means “born on US soil”. Either way (and your contention is valid, I just don’t buy it) there have been Presidential candidates (Goldwater, Romney, McCain) who could test the issue but have not.

  • Rivky

    Oh, come on. This is the same ridiculous spin coming from the same “conspiracy theorists” who put it out there back in 2000 that John McCain fathered a black love child and he and Cindy adopted her in order to make it “legitimate” (the child, Bridget, was adopted from a Bangladeshi orphanage – the story was perpetrated by the Bush camp, the SAME advisors who are working on the McCain campaign NOW). I can’t vote – so whatever. But seriously, don’t you think they would’ve vetted every possible scenario before letting Obama on the ticket?

  • http://crawlingaxe.blogspot.com Crawling Axe

    >Also, do better research than looking at anti-Obama websites. Look at objective sources like Snopes: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp

    They have a picture of Ossama’s birth certificate there, which has a stamp “2007” on it. I am not saying I believe he is not a US citizen, I am just saying that not everything is so poshut.

  • http://www.esajudita.com Lena

    This does sound like a conspiracy theory to me. If John McCain was born on a military base in Central America to American-citizen parents, then he is an American citizen and eligible to run for President. If Barack Obama was born in Kenya but his mother is an American citizen, then he is as well, and the same applies.

    It sounds like a scheme to discredit him by the same types of people who think that “socialist” is an insult.

  • http://honestlyfrumblogspot.com Honestlyfrum

    Husain Obama is trying to change the constitution before he is even president. G-d help us

  • http://www.esajudita.com Lena

    Spare us, Honestlyfrum. So Obama’s middle name is Hussein. So what? I’m with Colin Powell on this. The attempts to refer to Obama as “Hussein Obama” or “B. Hussein Obama” (as the heinous Ann Coulter does) are nothing more than Republican fear mongering tactics. And you know why they work? Because they appeal to the lowest common denominator, which is most Americans.

  • http://freshwater-phil.blogspot.com Phil

    I’m with Sam, Terminator for pres. would be cool. Maybe have Van Dam as VP and Rambo as foreign secretary, then you would have a real kick ass team at the top, Hamandinejad would crap his pants.

  • Yochanan

    Lena,

    Too the wingnuts, anyone slightly to the left of them is a “socialist”.

    To the moonbats, anyone slightly to the right of them is a “fascist”.

  • Klemmy

    When terrorists take over the world and we’re all dead, the Democrats and the liberal media may still deny that violence is the only way to deal with bloodthirsty arabs. Talk=weakness in their eyes. It’s been proven over and over again throughout history. Just a small example is how everyone Israel gives up more land, the boundaries get smaller and bombs just hit us closer.

  • Anonymous

    “This does sound like a conspiracy theory to me. If John McCain was born on a military base in Central America to American-citizen parents, then he is an American citizen and eligible to run for President. If Barack Obama was born in Kenya but his mother is an American citizen, then he is as well, and the same applies.”

    No, the same does not apply. McCain was born on an American military base, which conforms to the rules of being born on U.S. soil.

    If Obama was born in Kenya, it is not the same thing. You cant bend the rules here!!

    Also, why are most Americans the “lowest common denominator”?

  • http://www.esajudita.com Lena

    Ok, maybe “most” Americans are not the lowest common denominator, but many Americans are. It comes from lack of sufficient education about the rest of the world, and lack of ability to speak other languages or know other cultures.

    Plus, look at all of the things being yelled at McCain rallies: people calling for Obama’s assassination, people calling him a terrorist, people asserting that socialism is a bad thing.

    Also, as I believe was pointed out, what does natural-born citizen mean? If someone has a parent who is an American citizen, then he or she is as well.

  • ANON

    Even if Obama was not born in the US, his mother was in fact a US citizen. Besides there have been several presidential candidates who were not born in the US including John McCain. Americans need to know our history before we start sprouting off about laws and current practices that we obviously know nothing about.

    Here is the entry according to the all knowing wikipedia:

    [edit] US presidential candidates born outside the US
    “The constitutional wording has left doubts about whether those born on foreign soil are on an equal footing with those whose birth occurred inside the country’s borders, and whether they have the same rights.”[2] Though every president and vice president to date (as of 2008) has either been a citizen at the adoption of the Constitution, or else born in a U.S. state or Washington D.C.,[3] a number of presidential candidates have been born elsewhere.[4]

    Barry Goldwater, who ran as the Republican party nominee in 1964, was born in Arizona while it was still a U.S. territory. Although Arizona was not a state, it was a fully organized and incorporated territory of the United States.[5]

    George Romney, who ran for the Republican party nomination in 1968, was born in Mexico to U.S. parents. Romney’s grandfather emigrated to Mexico in 1886 with his three wives and children after Utah outlawed polygamy. Romney’s parents retained their U.S. citizenship and returned to the United States in 1912. Romney was 32 years old when he arrived in Michigan.

    Lowell Weicker, the former Connecticut Senator, Representative, and Governor, entered the race for the Republican party nomination of 1980 but dropped out before voting in the primaries began. He was born in Paris, France and acquired his citizenship at birth through his parents. His father was an executive for E. R. Squibb & Sons and his mother was the Indian-born daughter of a British general.[6]

    John McCain, who ran for the Republican party nomination in 2000 and is the Republican nominee in 2008, was born at the Coco Solo U.S. military base in the Panama Canal Zone to U.S. parents. Although the Panama Canal Zone was not considered to be part of the United States,[7] federal law states: “Any person born in the Canal Zone on or after February 26, 1904, and whether before or after the effective date of this chapter, whose father or mother or both at the time of the birth of such person was or is a citizen of the United States, is declared to be a citizen of the United States.”[8] The law that conferred this status took effect on August 4, 1937, one year after John McCain was born — albeit with retroactive effect, resulting in McCain being declared a U.S. citizen.[9]

    The mere fact of Constitutional ineligibility has not deterred some minor parties from nominating candidates for President who could not possibly serve in the office. For example, although some states have blocked ballot access for such candidates, the Socialist Workers Party nonetheless successfully placed its candidate, Róger Calero, on the ballot in Mississippi in 2004. [10]

  • Anonymous

    Obama was born in Hawaii.

  • http://shirabatsarah.blogspot.com shira0607

    Philip Berg is a 9-11 Truther. Just do a google search and see. Websites like Little Green Footballs and many, many others will not even allow links to this nonsense about Obama not being a US citizen.

    The stories about Obama not being a US citizen and not eligible to run for president is nothing more than harmful, spiteful gossip and has no baring on truth. These rumors should not be spread.

    I hope you do a post correcting this.

  • Chris_B

    Lena,

    Before you go ragging on the “average” American, you really ought to spend some time outside the US. Human nature is everywhere, there is no escaping it. Also I’ll let you in on a dirty little secret: knowing other cultures or speaking other languages does not automatically make a person respect those others nor is it any indication of that person being respectable.

    After 11 years outside the US, I can safely say that the proportion of fools is a constant.

  • http://www.frumsatire.net Frum Satire

    You know Shira I was going to do a post on the 9-11 truthers- I saw the movie loose change and its mighty convincing- although I am not exactly sure of what.

  • http://www.esajudita.com Lena

    Chris_B: I *live* outside the U.S.

    Knowledge of languages and cultures certainly helps. In my eyes, knowledge of language and culture is an essential element to education. And what I saw when I was growing up in America was pretty disappointing.

    And look at the idiocy coming out Republican propaganda and out of some of the nuts at John McCain rallies. Obama as a terrorist. Socialism as bad. It’s nuts.

  • Anonymous

    What are 9-11 truthers?

    And isnt loose change about how” america caused 9-11″? (which was praised on the BBC i believe)

  • http://crawlingaxe.blogspot.com Crawling Axe

    >In my eyes, knowledge of language and culture is an essential element to education.

    In my eyes, knowledge of facts and basic rules of logic is. Also, perhaps, history.

    >And what I saw when I was growing up in America was pretty disappointing.

    You mean, the fact that people’s standard of living was much higher than in almost any other country despite the government’s best efforts in the last century? Perhaps you should have grown up in Russia, not US — you might have thought about Republicans differently. Although, probably not…

  • Chris_B

    Lena,

    OK so maybe I stand corrected, you’ve experienced places outside the US (hope you dont mean Canada…). As for the rest of what you said, there’s mud slinging everywhere that there is a competitive political system.

    Also I’m of the opinion that socialism is bad. It might work under very limited circumstances (small population, not much innovation, poor work ethic, homogenous population) but for the most part its a bag of fail.

  • http://www.esajudita.com Lena

    Chris_B: I live in Israel.

    I think that when Americans hear the word “socialism” they think of the Soviet Union.

    Let’s take a place like Israel, which still retains vestiges of socialism (ie. universal health care, gov’t-set prices on prescription drugs, etc.), yet which also has a thriving capitalistic economy. Best of both worlds, no?

    Many countries with government-provided health care have some of the longest life expectancies in the world (ie. France).

    It frightens me when Americans claim that a) Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton are socialists simply because they talk about universal health care coverage, and b) that socialism is, by definition, all bad.

  • http://www.esajudita.com Lena

    Chris_B: I live in Israel.

    I don’t think that socialism is bad. I think that elements of socialism (like, say, universal health care coverage) are wonderful things.

    Let’s take Israel as an example. We have government-provided health care, controlled pricing for prescription drugs (unlike in the U.S. where the manufacturers set the insane prices), we still have quite a few gov’t benefits, for example, leave/child allowances for mothers with children, and things like this.

    Yet, on the other hand, Israel has a mostly capitalistic – and thriving, I might add, economy.

    France is another example: a country also with government-provided health care, has one of the highest life expectancies in the world (higher than that of the U.S.).

    I think that when Americans think of the word “socialism” they think of the Soviet Union and the destruction of democracy – a condition which is not necessarily a component of a country with socialistic elements.

  • http://crawlingaxe.blogspot.com Crawling Axe

    Lena, here is an opinion about Israeli economics and healthcare system that says that they are not really socialist. Even the kibbutzim are not socialist on the outside (and the aspect where they are socialist makes them worse).

    “Israel does have a successful and effective government-run healthcare system for those who cannot afford private medicine, and it can be argued that that is a form of integrated socialism and capitalism. But it must be noted that in that case government healthcare is only one choice among many for healthcare.

    Government-run healthcare is an ALTERNATIVE, and if you don’t like that alternative, you can obtain private medicine or get a job in which the employer pays for part or all of your healthcare. So ‘socialized medicine’ in that case is forced to remain competitive with private medicine due to market forces, just like any private medical system must.

    Given that, the system can really be called a capitalist private medical system with a government run choice that sits alongside all the other private medicine choices. And to be fair, the doctors in the government run healthcare system (called Kupat Cholim) are excellent at their jobs… because they compete with the private market.”

    And this would be even better if private healthcare system was completely privatized (it would drive prices even more down), and those who cannot afford healthcare would get donations from private, voluntary funds (not those taken away from people by force). If the taxes were lower, economy would be healthier and people richer — and more likely to give money for free.