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I-pods are banned in Israel

Thank you Jameel for telling me about this

“A terrible plague is upon us, calming victims every day these sinful devices were banned by all the great rabbis, but are still common in the haredi world their devilish distributors want nothing more than to drive the people of Israel to sin, through movies and other abominations”

“This little device is the devil’s way to try and gain entrance to our protected homes and yeshivas, disguised as something you can listen to Torah lessons through”

It seems that they are saying movies are abominations and that the little device could be anything from a portable TV to a laptop or even a Blackberry. But they are talking about the lowly I-pod which cannot even access the internet and is merely used as an easier way to listen to Torah and music.

Wait are they saying Torah lessons are bad?

Uh oh, and I always though listening to Torah tapes on my I-pod was a good way to offset the obvious sins I am racking up by listening to Phish and Niel Young.

I still think that someone should come up with a gambling site that hedges bets on what the Charedi Chumra Police will ban next. I predicted several things in my Chumra Research Institute post- but the I-pod was not on the list.

Now the question is what will they ban next?

{ 22 comments… add one }
  • Child Ish Behavior July 2, 2008, 11:47 AM

    The next kol koreh will be about how men should be the rulers of their house holds. They will send proclamations throughout the land to this effect. Then Purim will be banned because the story’s current applications to proclamations.

  • heshman July 2, 2008, 11:56 AM

    Purim is way too much fun I can’t believe it wasn’t banned already.

  • Anon. July 2, 2008, 12:45 PM

    They think that the world is at war against Torah so that staying away from as much of it as possible is the best way to stay holy and seperate. This isn’t the way of Torah. Hashem wants to be found in the lowest physical things. Like shiurim and niggunim on an ipod, for example.

  • Ariella July 2, 2008, 12:51 PM

    *Rolls eyes*

    Anything new or modern is going to get banned by these folks somehow. I’ll admit that they disgust me with their behavior. Throwing rocks, insane bans and such are not good ways of getting closer to g-d. I am with anon on this one, the Ipod can be a tool.

    But what do i know? I am a heathen who left years ago.

  • chanief July 2, 2008, 1:16 PM

    Well, I’m surprised it took them this long really. The iPod is evil. EVIL!!!!!!!

    Whatever happened to the concept of elevating such “low” physical things to a spiritual level by giving them a spiritual purpose (such as listening to shiurim ans such.)

    They should just get it over with and ban everything. Ban fun (sorry, Purim’s just gonna have to go.) Ban music (all music, even niggunim in shul.) Ban sex (except for once a year to make a baby but you are not allowed to enjoy it.) Ban food (except bread and water.) Ban books (any books – heck maybe people should not learn how to read at all, leave the reading to the gedolim, they can guide us, after all they know what’s best for us!)

    I’m sure I’ll think of some more. Man oh man, it’s times like these that make me wish I were an anthropolgist or sociologist so I could do a reliable study on just how many people are turned off to the religion and go “off the derech” as a direct result of this sort of bullshit (can I say bullshit here?)

    And Hesh, Phish and Niel Young??? See you in hell buddy (it’s too late for either of us I’m afraid.)

  • yehupitz July 2, 2008, 1:36 PM

    Hold the phone. I am no fan of any chumra of the month club stuff. But this one makes sense, IF the Ipod they are opposed to is the one that has a TV screen. That would make this latest Ban nothing but an extension of their standard decades-long opposition to movies and TV.

    If they’re opposed to the audio and knew nothing about the video, then you’re right to be…perturbed.

  • heshman July 2, 2008, 1:55 PM

    It would make sense to ban all Ipods besides the nanos- the nanos cant hold much besides torah tapes anyway.

  • Ari July 2, 2008, 2:09 PM

    Here’s an idea: Let’s ban live Jewish music, strawberries, wigs with natural looking hairlines, and New York City water! Oh wait . . . been there, done that.

  • Ben July 2, 2008, 2:11 PM

    What should really be laid to rest is the 2nd day of yom tov which is totally useless and the GET nonsense

  • chanief July 2, 2008, 2:48 PM

    Hear hear Ben – I second the call for putting an end to the 2nd day of yom tov insanity.

    What part of the GET process are you referring to as nonsense? Being a woman, I can come up with many parts myself, but I’m curious about what a guy has issue with in particular (I am assuming you’re a guy.)

  • Meira July 2, 2008, 3:09 PM

    This is sort of random, but the I-pod thing reminded me…I was just in Israel last week during the bridge dedication thing. The cover-ups that the dancers had to wear due to the haredi protest were really bad. The black head coverings looked like at any moment they could be pulled down over the face to facilitate a convenience store hold-up. And the “dresses” looked like brown trash bags. So my vote for the next chumra/ban is definitely for something tzniut related. Burkas? Maybe finally banning women all together?

    I am also interested in hearing what the GET nonsense is from a guy’s perspective.

  • heimish in bp July 2, 2008, 3:22 PM

    Hesh is there something wrong with your site? When I go to your site, it sends me to a post from June 23rd. i have to cllick around a bit to get to the current post. WHATS GOING ON?

  • abandoning eden July 2, 2008, 4:00 PM

    chanief- I am a sociologist, but how would we collect a sample that is truly representative? How would one go around identifying people who had gone off the derech? It’s not like there’ s a national registry or something…

  • chanief July 2, 2008, 6:19 PM

    abandoning eden – I have no idea how you’d identify those who are “off the derech”, maybe starting a national registry is a good idea. Aside from facilitating a study of this sort, imagine the side benefits! It would be so much easier to rule out shiduchim with people who have a distant genetic connection with someone who has gone off the derech.

    It would be interesting to do some sort of study though, don’t you think? There has to be a way….

  • heshman July 2, 2008, 8:33 PM

    So would going off the derech registry be similar to the whole sex offender thing. Hey get away from that school your off the derech.

  • Future Druggie July 2, 2008, 10:36 PM

    I listen to my Shmuz I-Pod each day.


  • KissMeI'mShomer July 3, 2008, 9:04 AM

    I can understand people who feel that i-Pods with the ability to store movies is problematic (for the same reason that movies are problematic).
    However, I will never be able to understand why some people feel the need to use such hysterical verbiage to get this point (or other points) across. “A terrible plague”? The “devilish distributors”? Paranoia much?

  • heshman July 3, 2008, 9:27 AM

    It sounds like the mother from Detroit Rock City saying Kiss was the devils music.

    On other notes Future Druggie I have 160 shmuzem on my Ipod and it takes up only 2 gb

  • Mindy July 3, 2008, 9:32 PM

    Abandoning Eden, you’re a sociologist?
    Maybe we should join forces since I plan on writing books on the Jewish community..

  • sarah July 3, 2008, 10:17 PM

    THIS IS WHY CHABAD IS SOO COOL! sorry for shouting but like one of the pple on here expressed that using something like an i pod for kedusha or something jewish in general raises it up a level from reg gashmius. yikes im scaring myself. my point is that chabad very much is for using vcr’s and i pods to bring torah into our homes.

  • Heterim are for Hippies July 4, 2008, 2:02 PM

    This isn’t a teaching of Chabad. Nobody disputes this because it’s what the Torah teaches. You will even find it in the chapter entitled “kedusha” in mesillas yesharaim, hardly a chassidic sefer.

    Chabad is cool because it teaches that this type of avodah is possible by every single jew, not only a talmid chochom. Using kosher things lshaim shomayim is what will bring moshiach.

  • olie July 5, 2008, 8:16 PM

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