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	<title>Comments on: Philosophizing about orthodox women who wear&#160;pants</title>
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		<title>By: Melissa</title>
		<link>http://www.frumsatire.net/2008/05/27/philosophizing-about-orthodox-women-who-wear-pants/comment-page-2/#comment-81587</link>
		<dc:creator>Melissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 02:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: non-nagia BT</title>
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		<dc:creator>non-nagia BT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 02:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a close friend who is a BT.  She dresses totally tznius, but she is not shomer nagiah.  It confuses me, but it just goes to show that a girl can always wear skirts and not be shomer.  My external jewishness is also like that.  I wear a kippah and tzitzis all the time, and I&#039;m not shomer, though women always get out of my way when I&#039;m walking in Jewish areas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a close friend who is a BT.  She dresses totally tznius, but she is not shomer nagiah.  It confuses me, but it just goes to show that a girl can always wear skirts and not be shomer.  My external jewishness is also like that.  I wear a kippah and tzitzis all the time, and I&#8217;m not shomer, though women always get out of my way when I&#8217;m walking in Jewish areas.</p>
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		<title>By: MadMaxInJerusalem</title>
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		<dc:creator>MadMaxInJerusalem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 22:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Covering hair is 100% not biblical.   RamBam lists it in the Mishneh Torah as a rabbinical prohibition together with a few other items such as feeding your husband trief or having sex with a man when you&#039;re niddah.  None of these things are directly forbidden by the Torah, but apparently the Rabbi&#039;s forbid them based on the principle of not placing a stumbling block before the blind.   And it&#039;s interestingly worded also,  a married woman shouldn&#039;t go to the shuk with her hair uncovered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Covering hair is 100% not biblical.   RamBam lists it in the Mishneh Torah as a rabbinical prohibition together with a few other items such as feeding your husband trief or having sex with a man when you&#8217;re niddah.  None of these things are directly forbidden by the Torah, but apparently the Rabbi&#8217;s forbid them based on the principle of not placing a stumbling block before the blind.   And it&#8217;s interestingly worded also,  a married woman shouldn&#8217;t go to the shuk with her hair uncovered.</p>
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		<title>By: ohreally?</title>
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		<dc:creator>ohreally?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 18:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What do all of you expect women to do for a living? Stay at bais ya&#039;akov forever?
I know frum scientists, dentist, physicians, nurses, vet techs (animal nurses)- they have to wear slacks for safety reasons at work.   
Get real.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do all of you expect women to do for a living? Stay at bais ya&#8217;akov forever?<br />
I know frum scientists, dentist, physicians, nurses, vet techs (animal nurses)- they have to wear slacks for safety reasons at work.<br />
Get real.</p>
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		<title>By: Zan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 00:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about pants under skirts...?  I&#039;ve definitely seen orthodox folk where I live and in Israel wearing them..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about pants under skirts&#8230;?  I&#8217;ve definitely seen orthodox folk where I live and in Israel wearing them..</p>
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		<title>By: mo jew</title>
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		<dc:creator>mo jew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 19:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey,
personally i would love to find a girl that wears pants and is shomer negiah--its just that there arent too many out there. if you find any-feel free to let them know about me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey,<br />
personally i would love to find a girl that wears pants and is shomer negiah&#8211;its just that there arent too many out there. if you find any-feel free to let them know about me.</p>
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		<title>By: Bais Yaakov Girl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bais Yaakov Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 22:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Firstly wearing a skirt is manditory for tznius reasons. Many people say some pants are more tznius than skirts but that is not true unless the skirt is a mini skirt. Halacha is that you are not allowed to show the crack of your two legs above the knee so no matter how tight the skirt is you do not see the crack (I&#039;m not saying tight skirts are so tznius). Referring to what someone said in one of the posts, that skirts do no apply to Israeli orthodoxy, well aren&#039;t they also Jewish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Firstly wearing a skirt is manditory for tznius reasons. Many people say some pants are more tznius than skirts but that is not true unless the skirt is a mini skirt. Halacha is that you are not allowed to show the crack of your two legs above the knee so no matter how tight the skirt is you do not see the crack (I&#8217;m not saying tight skirts are so tznius). Referring to what someone said in one of the posts, that skirts do no apply to Israeli orthodoxy, well aren&#8217;t they also Jewish.</p>
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		<title>By: xuxppxxuxyyy</title>
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		<dc:creator>xuxppxxuxyyy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 04:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Sarah R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 13:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem is that skirts are generally considered formal wear for women, just as a business suit would be considered formal wear for men. Let&#039;s face it, if you&#039;re dressing for comfort, you&#039;re not likely to put on a skirt and tights! Yet while women in orthodox communities are expected to wear skirts all the time, there is no equivalent rule for men: if women were required to wear skirts and men were required to wear a suit and tie, that would at least be fair. But men are permitted to wear whatever they want - they can wear jeans all day, and nobody complains that they are improperly dressed. I wonder if it ever occurs to them that women might like to relax in a comfy pair of jeans.

All religions were primarily intended to control and regulate the behaviour of women. Can you think of any religion which has as many rules for men as it does for women?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is that skirts are generally considered formal wear for women, just as a business suit would be considered formal wear for men. Let&#8217;s face it, if you&#8217;re dressing for comfort, you&#8217;re not likely to put on a skirt and tights! Yet while women in orthodox communities are expected to wear skirts all the time, there is no equivalent rule for men: if women were required to wear skirts and men were required to wear a suit and tie, that would at least be fair. But men are permitted to wear whatever they want &#8211; they can wear jeans all day, and nobody complains that they are improperly dressed. I wonder if it ever occurs to them that women might like to relax in a comfy pair of jeans.</p>
<p>All religions were primarily intended to control and regulate the behaviour of women. Can you think of any religion which has as many rules for men as it does for women?</p>
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