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I have posted this video before- but it needs to be posted again with all of the rather violent comments made by two individuals who think I am the worst thing since the Nazis. I am perpetuating hate and they have become convinced that I am writing for an audience of missionaries and secular Jews so that they can poke fun at the ultra orthodox. I tried to explain to them that most(not all) of my readers are of the yeshiva, Lubavitch and right wing modern orthodox crowds- but they wouldn’t listen- I figured I would post and see what people had to say- especially since I know plenty of critics read this blog.

This video is about a weekend spent in Monsey at my Charedi relatives- prior to actually moving there. Please note that the first 10 comments or so were complimentary- following the video are the violent and pissed off comments- that do have a point- and I understand it based on their age mostly- 39 and 40 year olds. Though based on some amazing contacts I have made in the few days I have come to the conclusion that my over 35 year old crowd is much larger then I thought.



violinistapr

well, I understand where you are coming from is not easy to be jewish…but you see,It is with this chasids that judaism will go on to the next generation, you will give to your children a assimilated ,americanized,corrupted version of it! I admire more the dicipline , prefference of absolute values and their resolusion to keep them, than the pathetic way on which you look at them! I admire chasidim!

Me
Well admiring chassidim is one thing and making fun of them is another. I never said I didn’t admire them- your problem is that you cannot take a joke- and on top of this- you are not willing to ackknowledge that out of the Jewish community as a whole the chassidim are the most Screwed up and have undoubtedly caused loads of assimilation based on their views that other Jews are not good unless they look like them.

Just putting on some garb does not excuse their illegal behaviors-

V
I don’t see what you see! Being jewish particulary for a hassid is dificult! while most jews prefeer the easy and lazy “version” of judaism. This hassidim celebrate jewishness in its most pure form. for me making fun of this people is like making fun of the very esence of my jewish soul! I can’t blame them for being protective,the real and loyal jew has done so since the bigining of our nation.They have what they have because the put a fence around themeselves,the causes envy to the assimilated!

about “illegal behavior” I recent that! I refuse to believe that! yes there are people that may have done some of this minor and technical illegalities, but what about you? are you following the legalities of jusdaism? What does judaism teaches about gossip, slander,about ridiculing others at the expense of humor? do you have any idea of the irresponsable act you have commited by presenting this video? I deal with antisemitism and this video is ideal for them to promote it ! is a Chilul Hashem!

MCORMAN
I’m in agreement with you that there are folks in the areas you describe who could use a little humor in their outlook. Consider performing “live” for them. Would you say this material to their faces? I doubt it. Those folks are not the one’s viewing your posts. Your viewers are elsewhere, laughing at their brother’s expense. If knowing you personally is necessary to truly understand you’re true intent, then it’s your obligation to prevent others from misinterpreting what your message is…

Me
Its actually funny you say this because I actually did do one show in Washington Heights and preformed this exact material- it was loved by the audience- I have plenty of readers/watchers who are black hat people- Rabbis, kollel guys, yeshiva guys- and more, if you aren’t from a yeshiva back round most of my stuff is hard to get.
You can watch my performance on facebook. I am planning another larger show for the summer. I am writing an article with this stuff for a Jewish paper as well.

MCORMAN

Thanks for responding. I understand all of the supposed satire that you so thoughtfully crafted. Your answers don’t do justice to my inquiry’s. Which venue in Washington Heights did you perform in? What publication will be featuring your writing? Since you stand behind your standup, you are willing to identify them, aren’t you?

Me

Of course- I preformed in the Mt Sinai shul on the corner of 187 and Bennet in the heights in late November of last year- way before I poste anything on youtube- my blog is huge compared with this- 2000 hits a day.

The publications featuring me- NJ Jewish News, Long Island Jewish Star and soon the Jewish Week and Village voice- with my latest connected fan.

I am also featured on a Documentary made by two Chabad women- on shomer negia- its called Cant Touch This.

MCORMAN

Thanks. Surely then, based upon the list of publications below, I reiterate my earlier comments. Your audience is not laughing with those whom you insult, but at them. You are providing them a way to vent hatred & disrespect disguised in your feux comedy. Your agenda is transparent and you cannot hide from its results, whether you feel you’re being humorous or not. You should be concerned with more important matters than the hits you recieve here. Is this the legacy you want to be remembered by?

V
I agree 100% with mocrman! I deal with antimemitism and those idiots the missionaries….they love garbage like this to spit at our people. I resent that he assumes negative things about the very religious,and I ‘m personally insulted by your sick satire and vulgar gentile-minded stupidity. If there is any respect left in the minute spect of jewishness you have…you should understand that!

  • Garcia

    When are you going to write up a post about Yeshiva University and all of its travesties?

  • http://www.frumsatire.net heshman

    Well I don’t think I could do that since I only have respect for YU and Stern. I also don’t like to poke fun for no reason- if they are funny they get a post. To me they are nerdy- who knows maybe I will do it.

    Travesties will never happen since they are what I envision orthodoxy to be.

  • s(b.)

    I read that as transvestites. lol d’oh.

  • G in L.A.

    I am a card carrying, black hat wearing ultra orthodox yid -over 40. I enjoy your humor very much and do not find it at all offensive. People who have a problem with you have a chip on there shoulders. & need to get over it.

  • Hindy in Monsey

    While some of your stuff I do find offensive- IE breast milk and that one post about evading the laws of shomer negia. As a member of the yeshivish community of Monsey- I send my kids to Ohel Torah and Bas Mikroh (very frunm schools in Monsey) I find your sense of humor hilarious.

    I happen to attend one of those type of shuls, but what do you expect- the same would happen if me and my husband walked into a modern orthodox shul. We would get the stare- my husband with his gartel, bend down and small peyos and me with my sheitle. Thats life- but thats the beauty in this sort of humor- it pokes fun at everyday occurances that aren’t noticed until someone says something.

    So true about the siddur thing- even in the ezras nushem this happens.

  • Headbanger

    Nu, how are the kollel yungerleit gonna pay for the chicken for shabbos? Prices are skyrocketing worldwide!

  • Rafi

    Ner Yisrael here, and i love your humor.

  • Anonymous

    Also an over 30, right-wing modern orhodox – And I laugh daily at this site!

    btw, s(b)…I also read ‘transvestite’ and I was really confused. Ha!

  • jelen

    1. modern orthodox liberachmir and love it.
    2. is the “cant touch this” documentary available? i can’t find it online and i want to see it!!

  • Adi

    I actually thought this was one of your funniest videos yet. “Suedar” lmao!
    You seem to be poking fun at some of the nuances of orthodox jewish life, rather than at any fundamental religious points. Besides, humor doesnt necessarily translate into disrespect.
    I honestly dont see why this would turn people off from being frum, or how this could possibly be misconstrued as self-hating.

  • Anonymous

    The film cant touch this will be documenting different relationships and is still being produced- it has been a work in progress for the last several years. Heshy will be featured in the film- we previewed the film at this years Jewlicious film fest- to great reviews- please visit us on facebook.

    http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=21536103840

  • http://welcomebalance.blogspot.com s(b.)

    Hindy, you and your husband are more than welcome wherever I daven, any time.

  • http://www.frumsatire.net heshman

    I invited my critics on you tube to this post but they never made it. Its just that not everyone has patience with making you tube accounts- because its not as inetractive as a blog.

  • http://welcomebalance.blogspot.com s(b.)

    Headbanger, having a kosher home practically turned me into a vegetarian. If my grandmother didn’t send me home with leftovers from meat meals, I’d probably never eat it at home.

  • urban gypsy

    What really bothers me about your critics is when they make ad hominem personal attacks on you and your perceived level of religious observance, instead of directly addressing your material. I think that’s cheap and really mean.

    I sent one of your videos (the one about kiddush food in shul) to one of my friends, and her comment was, “But he’s not frum.” And I said, “Why not? He wears a kippah and tzitzit in every video!” And she said, “Oh, I didn’t notice.” She’s a little slow on the uptake and doesn’t have the best sense of humor.

    My point is that I think these comments about you and your hypothetical childrens’ lazy, assimilationist, and illegal behavior are sorely misguided and they really piss me off.

  • Dude!

    The guy violinistapr likes making controversy. He made a big deal out of a video from the guys at Bais Yisroel in Israel which immitated MBD and the Miami Boys Choir. He made them take it down! The point of the video was strictly for purim and it was not making fun at all.

    These guys have no sense of humor or a life…please dont take what they say seriously or in any offence. They are the ones who ban lipa and sheitel stores.

    And Rafi, which Ner do you go to? Baltimore or Toronto?

  • http://www.frumsatire.net heshman

    Dude- thanks check out this message I got in response to inviting Violin to my blog.

    “Dear sir, you have completely miss my point! do you think that I will fall for your sick satire? do you think that ridiculing and degrading your people is a cause for debate or opinions like democrats and republicans? you are an enemy of the jews! the fact that you are jewish do not in any way give you the right to do what you are doing. You remind me of the mentality of German jews before the holocaust! self hating jew…do you think that your humor is more powerful than your corrupted soul? you want to get atention?do tshuva and learn Torah instead of being the helenizers of our people!”

  • Ginger

    Sorry for the downer, since your blog is always so much fun, but this really saddened me. Instead of bashing you and perpetuating this type of behavior in the more right wing communities, why not take some responsibility!

    PS it makes them look even more gulity

  • Anonymous

    Where does this conversation take place, its not by the video and i want to put in my 2 cents/sense!!

  • http://www.frumsatire.net heshman

    This conversation takes place on you tube- go to the video and look at all comments.

    Ginger- you are entitled to your opinions- and I think that no matter what I write or do people will get offended. I mean I have some extremely neutral stuff that has offended people- I guess you can’t please everyone- or maybe I am pulling a tyranny of the majority according to you.

    Take a look at Jewish comedians- the brilliance is that we make fun of our own kind. These are my people- I love em, but they are funny- this is Jackie Mason, Woody Allen, Jerry Sienfeld- Borat.

  • KissMeI’mShomer

    I find your humor hilarious, but I can see why others might view some of your statements as an attack against Haredi people rather than poking fun at Haredi schtick. Mocking the Black Hat (the person) vs. the Black Hat (the black hat), so to speak.

    Of course, one can argue that mocking people is not always a bad thing… But I can see why those who feel that they’re being mocked might get testy. Particularly if they feel that “The Goyim” will read your work and believe that it tells the whole story about frum life in a very literal fashion.

    Personally I think that “The Goyim” can appreciate that frum people can be funny and wise and cool and close-minded and liberal and kind and foolish all at once. Maybe your critics have a harder time believing that, or they feel that you might not believe that. Or they fear that we really can be all those things at once – just like everyone else.

  • http://www.frumsatire.net heshman

    I am in agreement KissMe- good comment name by the way- I am curious if my thoughts on who you are- are correct.

    Point taken- non-Jews. Although I know the word Goyim means other nations, I feel it is a derogatory word that is spit in disgust- such as the N-word which really comes from “negra” which means black.

    Anyway I have some big fans who happen not to be Jewish- Chris_B and Warren two catholic commenters come to mind- and I think they understand the hilarity in it. I also have several folks in the conversion process who take my humor lightly and enjoy the sociological perspective of the frum community.

    I think there will always be someone offended. Look at all the political issues surrounding the way things are taught in school. Book bannings are always happening. My yeshiva banned Catcher in the Rye and the Chosen. Many public schools banned To Kill a Mockingbird- bec two parents were offended.

    It doesn’t make any side right- I think comparing me to a Nazi was like the people who compared Bush to Hitler- plain old wrong and I am not a fan of Bush at all- many of his statements offend me.

  • Stacy

    Maybe I’m getting this all wrong but I honestly don’t see this video as being particularly deep.mad funny and oh so true, on so many levels, yes. But deep in the sense that this was a thought out attack on a group of people? Come on, it’s an entertaining video poking fun at a certain situation.
    Does the name satire mean nothing to you people?
    And I hope none of you watch The Daily Show, bec in that same vein Jon Stewart should be arrested for anti-americanism or something.

    “A little bang action going on”- I actually laughed out loud at that.

  • Not From Burqalyn

    The commenter “violinwhatever” is not really doing any great advertising for the chassidish education system with that unintelligible drivel. My favorite line was “yes there are people that may have done some of this minor and technical illegalities.” Is that like eating a something half treif or being a little bit pregnant?
    Lighten up people- if you don’t laugh, you cry!

  • BMG (lakewood)

    when are you gonna make fun of us?

  • Chris_B

    KissMeI’mShomer wrote:

    “Mocking the Black Hat (the person) vs. the Black Hat (the black hat), so to speak.”

    If he is not naming names then it looks to me like its generic mockery.

    “Particularly if they feel that “The Goyim” will read your work and believe that it tells the whole story about frum life in a very literal fashion.”

    Personally I think that “The Goyim” can appreciate that frum people can be funny and wise and cool and close-minded and liberal and kind and foolish all at once. ”

    Speaking as a “The Goyim”, I’ve always enjoyed this sort of jewish humor. Heshman may or may not be remembered like Mel Brooks, but good for him for entertaining even a few people.

    heshman wrote:

    “Point taken- non-Jews. Although I know the word Goyim means other nations, I feel it is a derogatory word that is spit in disgust- such as the N-word which really comes from “negra” which means black.”

    Funny thing about those labels, they often get reverse-adopted as monikers of pride. See any episode of The Boondocks animation. Also in Japan, where I live, theres a similar thing. In Japanese the word for any foreigner is “gaikokujin” which is often shortened to “gaijin” and often used as a pejorative. Amongst the foreign population here its quite common for us to use the word when referring to each other even though it is used derogatorily against us. Point being, dont worry too much, people who might feel offended by “the G word” are probably just as thin skinned as the people who get their undies in a knot over your video.

    “Anyway I have some big fans who happen not to be Jewish- Chris_B and Warren two catholic commenters come to mind- and I think they understand the hilarity in it.”

    Big fan? Are you calling me fat? Thats downright weightist of you! I call discrimination! I’m suing for emotional damages.

  • M

    Can I ask you a question though- what *do* you respect? What do you hold dear? I personally see where these people are coming from. Every opinion can be learnt from.
    Don’t you see why they’re accusing you of having kids who will be assimilated non-committed Jews? Because all they see you doing is mocking and poing fun of those who hold Judaism. So tell me- and I challenge you to answer- what *do* you hold dear? What *do* you want to pass on to your kids as the heritage of your great and never-ending nation? What *do* you want your kids to look like/think like/act like/ live like? What *is* important to you?

  • M

    Who hold Judaism dear, sorry.

  • http://Mikeinmidwood.blogspot.com Mikeinmidwood

    To violin guy
    You have to admit that people are obnoxious when they treat anyone different than themselves like an outcast. Im sorry if I dont look like you with a shaven head and peyos that twirl to the floor but it doesnt give you the right to push me aside by some Rebbes tish.
    If you call this offensive obviously its true so stop creating something to make fun of and this is so not offensive so politely shut up

  • http://Mikeinmidwood.blogspot.com Mikeinmidwood

    Yes they really push you aside

  • heterim are for hippies

    If it wouldn’t be for humor there would be a whole lot more crying going on right now.

    Senor M.,

    If it wouldn’t be important to Hesh, or me, or any of the other readers, than there would really be little point in making fun of it.

    And a separate point:

    I think if we would take a look at the number of kids going off the derech in pent up communities like monsey, BP, CH, williamsburg, lakewood, etc. with close to zero exposure to any sort of opposing values, we would be in for a surprise.

    Lakewood needs a Chabad House.

  • M

    I don’t understand you, Heterim for hippies.
    If it’s important to you why woud you make fun of it?

  • chanief

    Oh man, some people need to lighten the hell up. ‘Nuff said.

  • M

    Oh- and btw- I am not opposed to using humor.
    I’m just wondering at what point does it stop being humor and turn into negativity.

    I think the main distinction that has to be made is what McCorman said: if you’re truly doing this for humor, and not to belittle others and their beliefs, then make it clear before you start. (to which Hesh is going to reply saying: there is a dislaimer right on the side of the site which says that this is comedy- don’t take it personally. I think the thing to do to make sure people don’t take this satire the wrong way is to once and for all (perhaps repeatedly) say that you respect people’s beliefs and stong values, you’re just doing it for the fun.

    I don’t think anyone is going to get Hesh to stop doing comedy altogether- it’s a basic part of his personality, and there is no reason to want to stop what makes so many people laugh. It should just be clear that there is respect on both sides. You want people who are frummer than you to respect you for who you are, where you come from, and what you’re worked on? Then respect them as well.
    I personally come from a more yeshivish background, and I can tell you, while yes, you have a very valid point that we yeshivish in Brooklyn can be snobby and elitist, as a mode of thought, it is taught in schools etc to respect others who come from different backgrounds, not to belittle them. Does it have to be worked on? Unarguably. Will we still condenm certan behvaiors and lifestyles? For sure, and I see no problem in this as long as you’re conveying the message that you judge the action, not the person.

  • Rafi

    to- Dude!

    baltimore..do i know u?

  • ugottabelieve

    to “M”
    I don’t know what Brooklyn your familiar with but I went to mainstream yeshivas in brooklyn and it is most definitely not taught in our schools to respect people from different background. If i had a dollar for every time a rebbe said a wisecrack about reform jews, conservative jews, yu/stern, chabad, non-jews, jews who wear blue shirts on shabbos, zionist jews, liberal jews,

    Belittling people who come from differnt backrounds is the way of life in brooklyn and our torah institutions are no different.

    That being said i have non problem with it jsut do it with some humor like Hesh.

  • conservative scifi

    When “M” asks what Hesh holds dear, it is pretty clear that “M” has not read much of this blog. Besides Cholent, Nature and cheap Pizza, Hesh has often discussed his struggles with praying with Kavannah (humorously identifying parts of the service that are being skipped) as well as issues of Ahavat Yisrael between different “types” of Jews. Hesh has mentioned his preference for Mussar study over strict halachah.

    While Hesh covers significant and substantial issues with humor, I think any fair reading recognizes the he is using these issues as a springboard on how to follow the “golden path” of the Rambam, balancing life, in his own humorous way.

    That said, Hesh has not wisecracked on conservative jews very much, and that is making me feel a little left out. You could at least call JTS a heter factory or something actually funny.

  • http://jacobdajew.blogspot.com Jacob da Jew

    Oh please, I totally agree with hesh!

  • utubefan

    M,
    Venture up to the top of this thread where Hesh states why he doesn’t make fun of YU.
    “Well I don’t think I could do that since I only have respect for YU and Stern.”
    Bottom line, though, is that I was raised Yeshivish in a community that was primarily MO, went to high school in Flatbush, moved on to study with the Yekkies, have a Chasidish side of the family that I love, have friends in Lakewood and in Conservative synagogues, hang out with Chabad and Carlebach people occasionally and love all Jews…and I think we’re funny and the minutiae of our lives is funny. The haters? Well, for that, I pause with regard to the You Tube venue–yeah, and it’s my moniker–and kind of wish it was all just here on the blog, minimize the haters and the possible Chillul Hashem, try to keep it in the family and with a few thousand others who read the blog…but in the end, I don’t lose sleep over it and I laugh a lot.

  • http://www.frumsatire.net heshman

    Utube- I do make fun of YU and Stern- I said that I have no idea what “travesties” this person is talking about. If they are talking about travesties like concert bannings and sexual molestation by Rabbis we know where to point those fingers. Notice that I never bring up sexual molestation- thats because it sheds unneeded negativity- personally I leave that to more serious bloggers.

    Ok Conservadox- heres an excerpt from my guide to every sect of orthodoxy.

    Conservadox- You are conservative but do not support the recent decision to ordain gay rabbis. You keep a kosher home, you eat Hebrew National, you probably eat milk and veggie out of the house. Your shull has no mechitza but every one sits separately. You speak Yiddish and half a bunch of orthodox relatives. You grew up religious but drifted away. Your children will probably intermarry and will either love or hate you and your old school ways. You vote Democratic unless you are from the south. You look at the ingredients to decide if its kosher. Ratners and 2nd avenue deli bring back fond childhood memories.

    And I have a post about JTS’s decision to allow Gay Rabbis to be ordained. It wasnt read but it was funny.

    http://frumsatire.net/2007/01/28/ordaining-gay-rabbis-was-the-biggest-mistake-the-jts-ever-made/

  • Ginger

    You misread my comment! I’m on your side here!!!

    Instead of [them] bashing you, they should take responsibility for their behavior! And by them reacting like this, they make themselves look more gulity.

  • http://www.kerstinbakerash.com Kerstin

    “yes there are people that may have done some of this minor and technical illegalities”

    What? Technical illegalities? I don’t get his definition of “technical”, but surely he’s not referring to the Vaad of Baltimore being “technically illegal”? Wow.

    That’s some pretty messed up stuff…

    Keep posting your videos – looks like a lot of people don’t find them offensive at all, including myself.

  • http://www.frumsatire.net heshman

    Hey Kerstin you want to hear something interesting- just looked at your blog- for a living I work in SEM/SEO and was just at the SES conference in NYC.

  • M

    Hi.
    Ugotta believe: I’m sorry that was your experience. I went to a Bais Yaakov school and two years of sem in Brooklyn afterwards. while I was in Hs I definitely felt that there wasn’t any real respect for other communities, and it definitely was one of the things that bothered me most, but as for *teaching*, and the values they sought to instill, it was always ahavas Yisrael and acceptance, even if it wasn’t played out in real life. Bad role models? No one’s perfect. I think it came mostly from a lack of understanding, which all hate comes from. “In the end, we will conserve only what we love. We will love only what we understand. We will understand only what we are taught.” Baba Dioum. You’re a million percent right that it is a HUGE thing we have to work on, but at least officially it is not espoused.

    Conservative sci fi- I’ve been following this blog since the beginning of this year. I’ve posted as “Mindy”, and I’ve watched a lot of his videos on youtube. *We* know that, but does anyone who just picks up his videos know that? It should be mentioned at least once on his profile like the disclaimer here, and be made clear.

  • Dude!

    Yo Rafi,

    I know a rafi in both baltimore and toronto. Hhmm, I wonder if you’re the one I know!?

  • utubefan

    I know this is off topic, but since you don’t get the travesties:
    Not for nothin’, but I learned late in life that the YU/Stern people sometimes think that the more Yeshivish people are more pure, somehow and that their own people are hypocritical and not careful enough with Halacha. It annoys me no end when a YU person goes Frummie/Yeshivish. I want to stop them and shoot them in the head. I feel that the YU way is straighter and more informed than anything I grew up with. I don’t get why they hate themselves so much.

  • M

    Why can’t you be YU and still committed to halacha?

    Also, I’m not getting into the whole concept of whether its better to be closed off or not, since that’s not my agenda, but if since “pure” means being “purely” for Hashem and Torah etc, wouldn’t you say that the yeshivish are more pure?

  • http://www.frumsatire.net heshman

    utube I completely disagree- just because someone wants to be stricter in their derech doesn’t mean they aren’t as straight as the YU derech, the YU derech is a little more modern, TV, internet, movies, secular music are all accepted by most YU folks- then again you have people that become more yeshiva oriented and dont want that sort of thing in their house. Of course I never understood why you had to don the black and white just bec you didnt see movies or watch TV.

  • M

    Hesh, based on my experience, I would venture to say that the reason many choose to wear black, white and hats is because there is a certain level of respect and dignity that it gives them.
    Personally, this is something I have really struggled with. I never understood why you couldn’t be a good Jew and still wear whatever you wanted. Eventually, I realized that although of course, we are not in the place to judge anyone, since you never know what a person is working on, where he came from, what he’s struggling with- but you can’t deny that how you dress has a major effect on you.
    This is a little bit personal, but I used tom and still, to some extent, do, dress way more colorfully and Bohemiany than my background, and since, bh, I was blessed with good looks and the confidence to highlight it, I would constantly be getting comments and looks. Gradually I realized that I was disgusted with myself and how I was presenting myself, and I toned down. I’m not exactly where I want to be yet, frankly for lack of clothes, but I am much happier with myself and respect myself much more.
    Now for the boys- dressing a certain way definitely has an effect on you. Everyone has their own unique destiny in life, and not everyone is meant to be like the other, but this concept definitely applies across the board. I personally feel it can literally make a person. All the best.

  • utubefan

    So Y.U. is less strict? That’s interesting. I don’t agree with that. I think those that follow the derech of the Rav truly follow are appropriately strict. I have found those in the Black Hat community who are appropriately strict too, but as a community, the Black Hat community discounts all Y.U. people as less strict. That is how I was raised. Not true. Just another derech with a more informed constituency, many of whom know the difference between Halacha, Chumra, Minhag. In the end, I don’t like it when people in that community seek out legitimacy in other frum communities. That’s all.

  • http://www.kerstinbakerash.com Kerstin

    Cool, I didn’t know that. I was at SES NY, saw a couple of guys in kippot but didn’t see you, too bad. Lots of frum girls/women from Lakewood, though :)

    I spoke to a couple of people there from all observance levels, there’s a gap in the market for a Jewish SEM working group, if that even makes sense. E-mail me if you like, it’s my first name at my blog address.

    Are you coming to SES Toronto?

  • http://esseragaroth.blogspot.com Ben-Yehudah

    B”H

    The Hafetz Hayim mentions the need for us to be careful about humor. No getting around it.

    You’re talented, buddy, but talent and being an entertainer means a big responsibility.

    Also remember that goyim may be watching you,too. Yes, everybody, that DOES make a difference.

    So, when’s the Jerusalem show? Sukkoth? ;-}

  • Chris_B

    So I finally took the time to watch the video and honestly cant see it as offensive. This one like most of Heshman’s humor is human nature schtick. It doesnt matter if you are Jewish/White/Black/Asian, whatever, these same kind of jokes exist everywhere. This one is basically the same as “country cousin visits city cousin” or vice versa.

    Ben-Yehudah,

    Its been established over and over that us g-men are watching. Those of us with a familiarity with jewish culture can mostly laugh along with the joke. As for if that makes a difference, go back and read the thread on the “k-word” post.

  • http://esseragaroth.blogspot.com Ben-Yehudah

    “Its been established over and over that us g-men are watching. Those of us with a familiarity with jewish culture can mostly laugh along with the joke.”

    There are halachic implications here, which you were not, and are not, expected to know about. No offense.

    Of course, you can laugh along. That has nothing to do with the point I was trying to make.

  • Apikoros

    Hesh-

    I thought the video was funny– I don’t know what is getting these guys’ boxers in a bunch!

    I was raised frum, and am now kind of Conservative (on my Facebook, it’s “Torah Egalitarian,” because, seriously, who knows what the hell that means, except that it’s too frum to be “liberal” and too frei to be frum). I think your stuff is hilarious, and usually dead spot-on accurate. Sure, you poke lots of fun at frum culture. You poke lots of fun at frei yidn, too. You’re equal opportunity.

    Funny is funny, and I think you’re right when you point out that Jewish humor has always been self-deprecating.

    Don’t pay any attention to this mishugas. These guys need to grow a sense of humor. It’s like my dad always says (he’s a frum rav): “You have to laugh at yourself, because if you’re not laughing, Hashem probably is.”

  • Hesh

    Thanks man!

  • Chris_B

    Ben Yehuda said “There are halachic implications here, which you were not, and are not, expected to know about. No offense.”

    No offense taken. The need to take care with humor I know about, but mattering if us g-men is watching I dont know about. Care to school me or give me a study reference? I’m an eager learner, not challenging you on finer points of halaka.

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