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Is yeshiva world news a brainwashing conspiracy?

Anyone who sits at a desk all day and wants to scare the crap out of themselves should just read the comments on yeshiva world news. For all of the unenlightened, the yeshiva world news is the largest charedi website on the internet. It was started as a secret blog by Charedi Rabbis to mold the minds of their followers and write insinuating comments on blogs they found to be against the agenda (which I have not figured out as of yet- although I have some theories) Some theorizers like myself, think tyrannical control is the eventual outcome and complete insularity and dumbness will result from actually getting all your news from yeshiva world news.

Reading the comments to many of the more controversial posts is scary, because the people who comment are being serious. Its no joke, just read any “news” story with more then 20 comments- see for yourself.

Anyway earlier this week some Charedim aboard an elal flight to Kiev became “unruly” when an objectionable movie (anything besides Ushpizim) was turned on. Unruly for charedim is much different then for regular folks and I am quite sure a full out riot similar to those on shabbos at Kikar Shabbat was started. Of course they claimed that the airline told them so and so about not showing movies. Read the full article and comments here It does seem however that in recent months the Charedim have been becoming more and more violent- its gotta be the whole shmita thing, I know I go nuts without fresh produce as well- there is only so long one can go on birsdeye before they go nuts.

So I was on a date last night with Beth Satkin (who actually wished to be mentioned) who related a time when her family became unruly on an El-Al flight. Beth comes from a Charedi family and the whole family started a riot on a plane to Israel once.

“We were about to settle in for our flight Israel- which was on Tisha Ba’av mind you and all the sudden they announced that no movie would be shown. My family went nuts, we reasoned that if you were flying on Tisha Ba’av you obviously were one of those Charedim that wanted to fly when no one else was flying so you could enjoy the illegal movie watching without someone you know spotting you. We became unruly and started yelling in Aramaic at the stewardess.

Ok maybe not- actually Beth and her family were on a flight on Tish Ba’av to Israel when the crew decided not to show a movie. In camp no matter which one it was they always showed operation thunder bolt. Anyway, they became a bit unruly, I would have got off the plane and used my seat cushion below the seat for a flotation device if you ask me.

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  • s(b.) April 9, 2008, 11:49 AM

    agreed; some of the comments (thinking specifically of lipa concert cancellation) have been truly eye-opening, if not disturbing. It’s always interesting to read different people’s perspectives, though, even if I don’t always agree with them. Some good comedy, too, in the “if you don’t laugh, you cry” sense of the word, sometimes.

  • hockberry April 9, 2008, 11:49 AM

    this hearkens me back to the days when i would have 5 guys watching the video over my shoulder because it “didn’t do” to have their screens on.

  • beth April 9, 2008, 12:12 PM


  • Headbanger April 9, 2008, 12:35 PM

    Causing a disturbance on a moving flight is a big criminal offense and they should have no tolerance for it, even for giant greaseballs with beards that might disturb the other inmates by breathing. These violent charedi outbursts are against the Torah anyway, and they’re only causing a chilul hashem which is far worse than a movie which you can choose to not watch.

  • heshman April 9, 2008, 1:32 PM

    Its not like they were showing the 40 year old virgin or something.

    The problem lies in the comments on yeshiva world news- not only saying these Charedim were right- but that they are owed an apology. Then you have them bashing people that said it was a chillul Hashem

  • s(b.) April 9, 2008, 1:55 PM

    What an inspiring thought. Without further ado, and meant only as a joke:
    Most Requested Flight-to-Israel Movies
    The 40-Year-Old Virgin
    Up In Smoke (and related C&C flicks)
    American Beauty
    The Shining
    Porkys (series)
    Knocked Up
    Eyes Wide Shut
    9-1/2 Weeks
    The Silence of the Lambs

  • s(b.) April 9, 2008, 1:55 PM

    oh, I forgot Kids and Gummo. (oy!)

  • s(b.) April 9, 2008, 2:17 PM

    dolemite (I’ll stop now)

  • Frum Punk April 9, 2008, 2:48 PM

    Reminds me when I flew to Israel for the first time. There was a little (maybe 14/15) chassidish kid two seats over. He had a sefer and I figured he would learn the whole time. Nope, watched movies the whole time.

    In retrospect, thats probably the only time he ever gets to see tv and films so he takes advantage of it. I was a bit naive back then though.

  • Frum Punk April 9, 2008, 2:49 PM


    American Pie series, Not Another Teen Movie, Harold and Kumar…

  • heshman April 9, 2008, 3:11 PM

    Nah how about Porkies, revenge of the nerds, fast times at ridgemont- those movies have loads of nudity.

  • Raizy April 9, 2008, 3:18 PM

    “the Charedim have been becoming more and more violent- its gotta be the whole shmita thing”-
    I had no idea that lack of fresh produce led people to engage in violent behavior. I learn so much from this blog.

  • heshman April 9, 2008, 3:29 PM

    Well that and the lack of hair on women’s heads, going crazy from Pesach cleaning

  • HeadBanger April 9, 2008, 4:08 PM

    You’re cleaning out your soul at the same time! Doesn’t that make you want to grab the windex and spritz the whole house until you can’t breathe? Or wipe the cracks between the tiles with a toothbrush. The more you clean the better ticket to heaven. I personally don’t think all this headache is worth it especially if my heaven is supposedly learning in yeshiva.

  • suitepotato April 9, 2008, 6:03 PM

    Truly the regular commenter peanut gallery at YW is another world entirely.

    Of course, so is the average Dragon Ball Z fan forum.

    Then again, DBZ fans aren’t representative of the best and brightest minds of an entire religion.

  • Anonymous April 9, 2008, 7:14 PM

    Honestly, the comments on YW and readers write in the yated make my blood boil and my faith in the chareidi world go right down the toilet bowl!!

  • heshman April 9, 2008, 7:55 PM

    Well soon you will not be able to flush the toilet on shabbos- I hear its the latest chumra in the works at the CRI- chumra research Institute.

  • Anonymous April 9, 2008, 8:50 PM

    that and using tissues because it absorbs and often rips….i think they are coming out with something to help keep you constipated for the whole shabbos! Oy for all those chollent eaters!

  • Dimebag April 10, 2008, 8:19 AM

    Chareidim were always violent and insane, ask anyone that lived in a chariedi neighborhood 30 years ago, stoning and killing people who were michalel shabbos (on shabbos), burning stores that were open on shabbos or sold non-kosher meat, and I’m sure the list goes on.

  • Hesh April 10, 2008, 8:56 AM

    Yes but now we have something called mass media and social networking which allows everyone to learn of this stuff instantly making it a much bigger chillul Hashem then ever

  • Ben April 10, 2008, 9:18 AM

    Remember the movie about 10 years ago…A Walk On The Moon which takes place in a bungalow colony! Albeit a non observant one which hired a “frum girl” counselor. The flick has a classic line where the “frie” girl ask the frummie if she ever kissed a boy with her tongue in his mouth. Her reply was ” with my tongue? I can’t even tear toilet paper on shabbos” It’s on Netflix

  • heimish in bp April 10, 2008, 4:13 PM

    Hesh, by the way, next shabbos, we are told to flush down the chamets after he time of eating it has expired.

    Does that make any sense to you? If it not considered taking ot of your reshus(domain), then whats the point? It is is considered taking it out of your reshus, then why is allowed to do it? why are we allowed to flush our toilet on shabbos?

    Look what you did HESH!!!!!
    Dont give them any good ideas

  • s(b.) April 10, 2008, 5:07 PM

    everyone loves a clogged toilet on shabbos that’s also erev yt. SWEET! The prize for finding the afikomen this year is a toilet snake or a plunger. (I don’t care if I’m the only one who finds that funny.)

  • Headbanger April 10, 2008, 10:13 PM

    I’ve always told girls that I want to steal their Besula’s like the Afikomen. It never landed me with success. I’m not looking forward to next shabbos at all. Forget the fact that you need to wake up for Vasikin or something, you gotta be done the meal before 11:00 leaving you with an extremely long afternoon of doing nothing and starving to death. Remember to flush those crumbs well because we all know what happens if selzer spills on chametz crumbs, they become more chametz.

  • s(b.) April 10, 2008, 10:22 PM

    since erev pesach is shabbos, do you burn your chametz on Friday? I’m just going to set my kitchen on fire, kasher and burn all at once. My car, well, I’ll just have to set the whole thing on fire, if I don’t vacuum. (it may not be funny, but I’m joking; the question was serious, though — or is the flushing supposed to sub for the burning?)

  • M April 10, 2008, 10:26 PM

    Frum Punk- when I was a kid all I did on the flights ws watch movies, and I had movies at home too. That’s what kids like to do- easy entertainment.

    And headbanger- don’t make fun of the toothpick crowd! I use em all the time! 🙂

  • Hesh April 10, 2008, 11:07 PM

    No burning for me I have a flight to Denver for the whole thing. I was going to drive, but my car is too full of chometz, I would definitely have to blow up my car to get it all out.

  • Yochanan April 13, 2008, 4:32 AM

    Speaking about movies on planes, I watched “The Notebook” on flights to and from Costa Rica, without the sound.

  • Yochanan April 13, 2008, 4:38 AM

    “No burning for me I have a flight to Denver for the whole thing. I was going to drive, but my car is too full of chometz, I would definitely have to blow up my car to get it all out.”

    New chumra: burn chametz via car bomb.

  • steven August 17, 2008, 11:58 PM

    you “bnei torah” seem to have a firm grasp on lashon hora (aginst a specific group also an issur) and movies

  • Anonymous April 28, 2010, 11:01 PM

    I read the comments there and here and the ones here are just as stupid if not worse.

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