Comments on: Taking issue with men who refuse to give their wives a Get!!! http://www.frumsatire.net/2007/12/26/taking-issue-with-men-who-refuse-to-give-their-wives-a-get/ It aint always frum and it aint always satire Thu, 18 Mar 2010 05:05:35 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Allan http://www.frumsatire.net/2007/12/26/taking-issue-with-men-who-refuse-to-give-their-wives-a-get/comment-page-1/#comment-69764 Allan Fri, 15 May 2009 04:53:30 +0000 http://frumsatire.net/2007/12/26/taking-issue-with-men-who-refuse-to-give-their-wives-a-get/#comment-69764 I am a man going through with a divorce and I am not willing to give a get, and yes it is because of money. You think i should be beaten up? Because i was married to an israeli, who took my child and herself back to israel, because she can get more money out of me there, over 1/3 of my wages are going to her, while she is living rent free in her parents apartment? I am more than willing to pay my fair share, but i cannot afford to eat properly, i have sold my car, my hi-fi, some of my clothes, just so i can afford to live. Is that fair to you? Is that right in your eyes that I should give a get and live like this, while my wife has everything provided for her for free? I am a man going through with a divorce and I am not willing to give a get, and yes it is because of money.

You think i should be beaten up? Because i was married to an israeli, who took my child and herself back to israel, because she can get more money out of me there, over 1/3 of my wages are going to her, while she is living rent free in her parents apartment?

I am more than willing to pay my fair share, but i cannot afford to eat properly, i have sold my car, my hi-fi, some of my clothes, just so i can afford to live.

Is that fair to you? Is that right in your eyes that I should give a get and live like this, while my wife has everything provided for her for free?

]]> By: Michal bas Avraham http://www.frumsatire.net/2007/12/26/taking-issue-with-men-who-refuse-to-give-their-wives-a-get/comment-page-1/#comment-62094 Michal bas Avraham Sun, 01 Feb 2009 06:06:14 +0000 http://frumsatire.net/2007/12/26/taking-issue-with-men-who-refuse-to-give-their-wives-a-get/#comment-62094 A week ago (last Sunday) I met with my learning partner and brought this up. I said, "If the kesubah is a contract guaranteeing all these things (food, shelter, conjugal rights) why then does the kesubah not become null and void when the husband is no longer providing them, as in the case of agunah?" She said very good. When her kollel husband came home, she asked him. His answer amounted to stating the kesubah is just a pretty piece of paper and really doesn't mean anything. A week ago (last Sunday) I met with my learning partner and brought this up. I said, “If the kesubah is a contract guaranteeing all these things (food, shelter, conjugal rights) why then does the kesubah not become null and void when the husband is no longer providing them, as in the case of agunah?” She said very good.

When her kollel husband came home, she asked him. His answer amounted to stating the kesubah is just a pretty piece of paper and really doesn’t mean anything.

]]> By: Rami Cohen http://www.frumsatire.net/2007/12/26/taking-issue-with-men-who-refuse-to-give-their-wives-a-get/comment-page-1/#comment-50893 Rami Cohen Mon, 23 Jun 2008 06:03:27 +0000 http://frumsatire.net/2007/12/26/taking-issue-with-men-who-refuse-to-give-their-wives-a-get/#comment-50893 It is disgusting that women virtually have no rights in Judaism. Kind of ironic when the same rabbonim (poseurs as I call them) say that women are 'supposedly' holier than men. They give birth to our children but when it comes time to release them and make them happy the a-holes of our tribe cannot handle separation. I had just stumbled upon this site and would like to ask permission to reprint on my online magazine which is a self help for women. I am sick and tired of these, I won't even call them men but punks trying to subjugate women. Eff this I have rad your asking for bigger sites to do something and now you have a new fellow advocate. It is disgusting that women virtually have no rights in Judaism. Kind of ironic when the same rabbonim (poseurs as I call them) say that women are ’supposedly’ holier than men. They give birth to our children but when it comes time to release them and make them happy the a-holes of our tribe cannot handle separation. I had just stumbled upon this site and would like to ask permission to reprint on my online magazine which is a self help for women.

I am sick and tired of these, I won’t even call them men but punks trying to subjugate women. Eff this I have rad your asking for bigger sites to do something and now you have a new fellow advocate.

]]> By: heshman http://www.frumsatire.net/2007/12/26/taking-issue-with-men-who-refuse-to-give-their-wives-a-get/comment-page-1/#comment-33227 heshman Thu, 10 Apr 2008 18:21:28 +0000 http://frumsatire.net/2007/12/26/taking-issue-with-men-who-refuse-to-give-their-wives-a-get/#comment-33227 Mazel tov to you! Josh Ross is a classmate of mine- and his mom makes some mad good food- so he can get plugged anytime (insert sexual joke if you'd like) Mazel tov to you!

Josh Ross is a classmate of mine- and his mom makes some mad good food- so he can get plugged anytime (insert sexual joke if you’d like)

]]> By: SZ http://www.frumsatire.net/2007/12/26/taking-issue-with-men-who-refuse-to-give-their-wives-a-get/comment-page-1/#comment-33218 SZ Thu, 10 Apr 2008 18:02:00 +0000 http://frumsatire.net/2007/12/26/taking-issue-with-men-who-refuse-to-give-their-wives-a-get/#comment-33218 Hey - Just noticed this post went up within a week of when Josh Ross and ORA helped me finally get my Get. Josh, ORA, and the rabbeim at YU are doing great work - keep plugging them! Hey – Just noticed this post went up within a week of when Josh Ross and ORA helped me finally get my Get. Josh, ORA, and the rabbeim at YU are doing great work – keep plugging them!

]]> By: Rivka http://www.frumsatire.net/2007/12/26/taking-issue-with-men-who-refuse-to-give-their-wives-a-get/comment-page-1/#comment-26024 Rivka Thu, 27 Mar 2008 15:47:59 +0000 http://frumsatire.net/2007/12/26/taking-issue-with-men-who-refuse-to-give-their-wives-a-get/#comment-26024 Thanks for posting this, this is a serious problem in the Jewish communities. Unfortunately there is a lot of biased Beis Dins. There is a great documentary called Mekudeshet, that follows the lives of a few different agunot in Israel struggling to get a Get in Israel. We had a viewing in my community in Jerusalem to try to bring awareness to this issue. I recommend everyone watch it and spread the word. Thanks for posting this, this is a serious problem in the Jewish communities. Unfortunately there is a lot of biased Beis Dins.
There is a great documentary called Mekudeshet, that follows the lives of a few different agunot in Israel struggling to get a Get in Israel. We had a viewing in my community in Jerusalem to try to bring awareness to this issue. I recommend everyone watch it and spread the word.

]]> By: echiuo tujxkdp http://www.frumsatire.net/2007/12/26/taking-issue-with-men-who-refuse-to-give-their-wives-a-get/comment-page-1/#comment-17971 echiuo tujxkdp Thu, 28 Feb 2008 05:05:53 +0000 http://frumsatire.net/2007/12/26/taking-issue-with-men-who-refuse-to-give-their-wives-a-get/#comment-17971 kmjizcoe opch dxen vhrakdeyt ahoi scixgtub hxpc kmjizcoe opch dxen vhrakdeyt ahoi scixgtub hxpc

]]> By: Jack http://www.frumsatire.net/2007/12/26/taking-issue-with-men-who-refuse-to-give-their-wives-a-get/comment-page-1/#comment-9122 Jack Wed, 09 Jan 2008 19:55:20 +0000 http://frumsatire.net/2007/12/26/taking-issue-with-men-who-refuse-to-give-their-wives-a-get/#comment-9122 Would this far and wide agreement be somewhat like the one signed by numerous Rabbis who agreed to stop supporting folks who threw outrageously expensive weddings, yet still attended those weddings thrown by major donors as well as having very expensive functions of their own? Would this far and wide agreement be somewhat like the one signed by numerous Rabbis who agreed to stop supporting folks who threw outrageously expensive weddings, yet still attended those weddings thrown by major donors as well as having very expensive functions of their own?

]]> By: suitepotato http://www.frumsatire.net/2007/12/26/taking-issue-with-men-who-refuse-to-give-their-wives-a-get/comment-page-1/#comment-9093 suitepotato Tue, 08 Jan 2008 23:54:08 +0000 http://frumsatire.net/2007/12/26/taking-issue-with-men-who-refuse-to-give-their-wives-a-get/#comment-9093 I think only a far and wide cross-movement social thrust from the people to get rabbis to sign agreements to not perform weddings unless the ketuba was worded to make aguna impossible is needed. The man would have to agree in advance that it was unacceptable and live with that. Any rabbi who performs such aguna-possible marriages consciously and willfully should be made to answer why they think that risk is perfectly acceptable. I think only a far and wide cross-movement social thrust from the people to get rabbis to sign agreements to not perform weddings unless the ketuba was worded to make aguna impossible is needed.

The man would have to agree in advance that it was unacceptable and live with that. Any rabbi who performs such aguna-possible marriages consciously and willfully should be made to answer why they think that risk is perfectly acceptable.

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