The phone call after a date is always awkward

by Frum Hiker on August 8, 2007 · 21 comments

So I went out on an interesting date last week, after the date we both did the awkward “so we’ll be in touch”. How long the phone call takes to materialize is dependant on whther the two parties want to see each other again.

My date was last Sunday night, I didn’t feel like calling her on tisha ba’av or after the fast, so I waited till Wednesday. It was obvious from my waiting that I was not going to ask her on a second date, as was the fact that she did not call me back first. Let me first say that this girl is the type to call back before the guy does and I love girls who are confident enough to take initiative.

So I called and left a message, then she called and my phone was off like it usually is, then phone tag ensued. The phone tag both answered our questions as to whether either of us wanted a second date. Ot is so obvious the girl wants a second date when they make damned sure they pick up the phone when you call. I was dreading the conversation anyway.

For me the most dread I have in regards to shidduch dating is the phone call afterwards. It is always awkward no matter what. Even if both parties feel the same, it just always puts a lump in my stomach. This time was no different. Phone calls in general in the shidduch dating field are always awkward. The first calls thoughts are always “how the hell am I going to start a conversation, what if she doesn’t talk, and so on… Then he second call to organize the date is a little less awkward, and then the big whammy phone call of after date comes and I just usually delay and delay until I can no longer stand it and just have to get the call out of the way. By the way, if the girl initiates with the second- before date call- it clears all awkwardness out the window, and blows down the walls of chivalry.

I finally reached the girl last night and we spoke for a few minutes, I then switched gears mid conversation and said “so on to the awkward part eh?” The response was met with her saying that it was great to meet me and she just didn’t think it would work out. I could see the angels dancing around my head screaming praise for my not having to reject a girl and hear her visibly hurt on the other end. I told her I felt exactly the same way, and did what I always do after the awkward rejection conversation.

I wiped my sweaty palms on my shorts, deleted her number from my phone and said Baruch Hshem.

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1 shlemazl August 8, 2007 at 2:26 PM

I couldn’t agree more. It gets even more awkward if the first date involved a sexual intercourse. Not so bad if it was just an oral interaction.

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2 Skeptodox August 8, 2007 at 4:05 PM

Oh, shelmazl :-)

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3 Dave August 8, 2007 at 5:46 PM

Did you spell it “Hshem” on purpose?? Please tell me you didn’t…

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4 Chaya August 8, 2007 at 5:55 PM

Good story. I am eagerly awaiting the minute the alleged girl finds your blog and reads your comments.

Let the ranting and raving begin!

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5 Frum Hiker August 8, 2007 at 6:36 PM

You know what there could be a ton of alleged girls since this happens on almost every date. Usually the phone tag is a good sign as to what the outcome of the date was. If they were really into you, it would be obvious by the fact they pick up their phone the first time- unless they like playing games.

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6 Aliza August 8, 2007 at 6:52 PM

Or maybe they don’t have access to their phone when you’re calling?
Sounds crazy, but it could happen :p

You like Shidduch dating? The whole concept scares the heck outta me. I don’t know what I’ll do when I feel ready to start looking to get married.

All my teachers and whatnot keep saying when the time comes they’ll help me out, get me in touch with Shadchans, but nobody ever asked what I wanted or when I want it… Hmph.

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7 Frum Hiker August 8, 2007 at 6:54 PM

Aliza I consider all dating for marriage to be shidduch dating- so if I meet the girl on facebook or through a shadchun its the same to me- there is tachlis other then winding up in be after the date.

For most normal folks shidduch dating is only through shadchuns and the rest is just dating. I am not not dating to find some nookie.

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8 Aliza August 8, 2007 at 9:10 PM

Oh, ok, so rephrased that would be do you like dating through Shadchans. And that’s what scares me, along with the meeting someone for the first time/talking/date thing.

So, do you like the whole Shadchun thing? And going on a date with some person you’ve never met before?

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9 Frum Hiker August 8, 2007 at 9:35 PM

Aliza read this article- its a bit long but it is one of my first posts and it is all about shadchuns and why its a love hate relationship.

http://frumsatire.net/2006/06/25/hello-world-2/

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10 Mike August 9, 2007 at 3:33 AM

shlemazl – don’t be such a jack@ss and write stupid vulgarity for no reason.

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11 common sense August 9, 2007 at 5:20 AM

oy! this proves that u are a warmhearted guy underneath all the rantings. an average shmuck wouldn’t bother feeling bad and certainly wouldn’t admit it to lot’s of people. by the way i am male :)

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12 shlemazl August 9, 2007 at 10:26 AM

Mike:

Now that you have so publically shamed me, I shall ensure that you will never see shlemazl being a jackass and writing stupid vulgarity for no reason.

Please accept my congratulations on fulfilling yet another mitzvah. Can you get any more virtuous?

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13 Frum Hiker August 9, 2007 at 10:45 AM

Wow can you just feel all the love in the air? If only Ed could see how caring everyone was.

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14 notsofrummie August 9, 2007 at 2:29 PM

If you went the shidduch route, why didnt both parties tell the shadchan what their verdict was. I thought usually if girl dont wanna go out again and if date was so so, girl will tell shadchan its a no go. Thats pretty independant of her to do this by herself.

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15 rebitizenviewpoint August 9, 2007 at 3:03 PM

perhaps the shadchan should have more pronunced role in the families lives of frummies.
eg when it’s ok to have sex-this way nobody gets rejected

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16 hesh August 9, 2007 at 4:32 PM

The person who set us up told us we we were adults and we could do it ourselves.

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17 blt August 9, 2007 at 6:25 PM

that’s why having a shadchin do it is so much better-no one has to break up w/ each other!

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18 common sense August 10, 2007 at 12:13 AM

yeah, that’s also why it’s great to have a lobbyist like jack abromoff-you don’t have to know that he’s stealing from you! but then you find out anyways.

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19 rebelwithacause August 10, 2007 at 4:15 PM

shlemazl // Aug 9, 2007 at 10:26 am
Please accept my congratulations on fulfilling yet another mitzvah. Can you get any more virtuous?
[sarcastic tone]
Shlemazl the blog world is full of malachim and tzadikkim. These people are soooooooooo religious that they constantly do lashon hara, slander, lie, cheat and curse. They are entitled to do those things cause they are exempt from any penalty. They are the untouchables. [/end of sarcastic tone]

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20 shlemazl August 10, 2007 at 11:25 PM

@rebel:

:)

I see you have something against prudes. As for your list of sins, I have to admit that I am guilty myself with regards to at least two of them: I love to lashon hara as well as an occasional curse.

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21 flatbush gal August 12, 2007 at 8:35 PM

so everything turned out ok- good for u (not sarcastic

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