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Why I think the Charedim banned the Fried/Shweky Concert!!!

Why did the charedim come up with the most recent bans of Strawberries and Gay Yeshiva Guy concerts? Was it something more then bugs and mingling? Is there a deeper meaning to all the so called nonsensical bans that reap havoc on the members of the ultra orthodox community every few months, or are they perfectly real and needed?

Maybe it is all just some big conspiracy thought up by some brains deep in the bunkers under Mea Shearim where a group of masterminds within the charedi community figures out how to slowly bring out bans so the charedim do not lose their ban funding. You know that many school districts have a funding policy called “use it or lose it” and in fact many charedi think tanks have this same policy. The meshulachim funding these organizations by looking dirty and carrying signed letters from great Rabbis you have never heard of while taking down full plates of wedding meals will stop funding, unless the charedi think tanks thrust some crazy chumras and bans onto the masses.

These bans and chumras seem to appear out of nowhere and have no basis. Strawberries for instance were banned, while spinach and lettuce are still in widespread use- but contain twice as many bugs. Inside sources tell me that strawberries are the next fruit that will be grown by the greenhouses in Israel and many of the Rabbis are heavily vested in these interests. Miami was banned because they didn’t hire enough of the Gedolim to be mesader kedushin at the cities weddings. The concert was banned because Shweky sings like a girl and therefore it resembles kol isha (on the side, in high school my dorm councilor confiscated Rush albums because he thought it was sung by girls).

This is why I am working with the 9-11 commission for truth in finding out why these chumras and bans really take place. Conspiracy, loss of funding, and plain old power tripping are al on the list, as well as more obscure things like- if the Rabbis do not ban things people will think they are getting lazy and not doing anything and still getting paid. Its kind of George Costanza acting all frustrated at work so people think he is actually working when he isn’t.

Along with the Charedi Ban Investigation Unit we have been working on possible reasons for why the concert may have been banned:

The Rabbis couldn’t get backstage passes and were pissed

They heard that the mechitzas being used might have contained shatnes

They decided that Shweky’s voice may be kol isha. (My dorm councilor in high school confiscated a Rush album I had once because he said it waqs kol isha)

The hashgacha of some of the food there was of a competing agency

Some of Avraham Fried’s songs are in English which is assur

Avraham Fried is Lubavitch and these Rabbis don’t consider Lubvitchers to be real Jews

They heard Matsiyahu was the opening act

There was a slight possibility that girls would have a good time

Women are only supposed to be doing 2 things at night, making babies and cooking

They wanted to be able to prove that most of those attending were am haaretzes, because they knew no one would listen to their stupid ban anyway. Now they can make more bans because they have to insulate themselves from the shgutzim who attended the concert.

Non-charedi products were being sold, and competition is bad.

Since most of their followers couldn’t afford to go, they decided to assur it and make everyone feel good.

They heard that women may possibly swing their arms at the event.

They found out that Shweky went to TIUNY in Rochester, and you know the controversy that creates.

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  • rebelwithacause August 6, 2007, 11:52 PM

    Taking into consideration that Shweky’s voice is kol isha lol, maybe they thought it would not be tziniut if he got on stage and swung his arms like girls? lol

  • Frum Hiker August 7, 2007, 1:13 AM

    I also heard that they think he had a sex change to sound that way and that most of the yeshiva boys choir stuff will eventually be banned as well.

  • jennthejewess August 7, 2007, 1:19 AM

    Hesh…ur posts make my day…this was a so funny 🙂

  • ed August 7, 2007, 1:20 AM

    Keep up the mockery, you ignorant piece of nothing. There’s a special place in Gehinom for Mockers like you.

    I have a better question. Since you have great writting skills, why don’t you use them to bring your “friends” closer to God?

  • jojo August 7, 2007, 1:20 AM

    Ed: You seem to take a stance similar to fundamental Christians in that you gleefully announce how everyone who disagrees with you will burn in hell.
    What FS writes is all very tongue in cheek. If he was writing a serious opinion column you might have a leg to stand on, but saying theres no place for parody at all?

  • Chaim August 7, 2007, 1:21 AM

    May G-d bless you with continued humor and perspective. You’ve got the right attitude, even though you probably are going to hell for half of these posts 🙂

    But hey .. I’ll be right there along side you so maybe we’ll have our own Hell J-Blogs. Maybe we could twitter live from hell.

  • tzivo nishta August 7, 2007, 1:21 AM

    As I once heard from a certain Rosh Yeshiva, its not the furnaces in gehinnom that make it hot, its the overcrowding 🙂

  • Chaim August 7, 2007, 1:22 AM

    You think they serve cholent in hell?

  • Hesh August 7, 2007, 1:23 AM

    As long as they put on deoderant.

  • tzivo nishta August 7, 2007, 1:23 AM

    Even if deodorant is put on beforehand, I cant quite imagine the resident demons of destruction handing out more samples…

  • Hesh August 7, 2007, 1:23 AM

    I think hell is when you are eating on friday night and realize that the cholent ran out of water and is starting to burn, and no one knows the halachos surrounding adding more water.

    Hell may also be, one of those kiddushes you waited forever for only to find the cholent is very light and raw and the potato kugel is too crunchy to be eaten without cracking a tooth.

    This sounds like the workings of a funny post. Lets stick to topic

  • Sara with no H August 7, 2007, 1:24 AM

    Living in California I didn’t even hear about the strawberry thing for ages. Sometimes, when I read things like this; it makes me glad I’m out of the loop. How obnoxious.

  • Tiuny 86 August 7, 2007, 1:24 AM

    Shweky went to Rochester? No wonder his songs are so sad.

  • Hesh August 7, 2007, 1:25 AM

    Dude Shweky is the one famous person that went to Rochester, oh and Rabbi Orlofsky also went there for a few months

  • Jew Stew August 7, 2007, 1:25 AM

    Didn’t David Draiman and the Beastie Boys go to Rochester too?

  • Tiuny 86 August 7, 2007, 1:26 AM

    I went to Rochester with Twisted Sister.

  • Jew Stew August 7, 2007, 1:26 AM

    Twisted Sister was formed before Tiuny even started. Dee Snider isn’t even Jewish.

  • Guy August 7, 2007, 1:26 AM

    Dee Snider sounds like such a Jew- Twisted Sister is such a 3 hit wonder, most of their songs suck.

  • Mazeartist August 7, 2007, 1:35 AM

    These “gedolim” have no problem voting for a government that expels Jews, arms Fatah, and legalizes gay parades. Why are they picking on Shwekey, Fried, and strawberries?

    If the “gedolim” can endorse Shimon Peres for president, what’s wrong with attending a Shwekey concert?

  • gulf August 7, 2007, 1:35 AM

    Twisted Sister
    3 hit wonder???
    1. We’re not gonna take it
    2. I wanna rock
    3. ??????????????

  • Frum Hiker August 7, 2007, 1:54 AM

    The Price song- Its in my head though I cannot get at the words.

    Thats the price you pay blah blah blah… I happen to have a couple albums of theirs- but that is just because I am in love with 80s hair metal

  • Tiuny 86 August 7, 2007, 2:15 AM

    Twisted Sister is jewish and so are the Beastie Boys.Thats how they made it to Rochester.

  • jewess August 7, 2007, 3:07 AM

    I am sure the author meant for this post to be funny, but I actually feel like crying. It seems that frum world is becoming about trivial and silly things that are simply ridiculous and ludicrous.

  • gulf August 7, 2007, 3:13 AM

    80s hair metal RAWKS! But I don’t know this price song, therefore it isn’t a hit. In order for a song to be considered a hit the song must saturate the airwaves to such an extent that your bubby and zeidy have to be able to sing the first few bars.

  • ed August 7, 2007, 4:06 AM

    >I am sure the author meant for this post to be funny, but I actually feel like crying. It seems that frum world is becoming about trivial and silly things that are simply ridiculous and ludicrous.

    Please explain what’s ridiculous and ludicrous about taking precaution from not eating something which can lead to transgressing numerous biblical commandmants.

  • ed August 7, 2007, 4:12 AM

    >Ed: You seem to take a stance similar to fundamental Christians in that you gleefully announce how everyone who disagrees with you will burn in hell.

    You soooo misunderstood. Its not about me, but about mocking Torah scholars which is a guarenteed free ride to hell.

    >What FS writes is all very tongue in cheek. If he was writing a serious opinion column you might have a leg to stand on, but saying theres no place for parody at all?

    There’s a limit. But not apparently on this blog, where a girl he dated dropped him like a hotcake over disgusting things that he posted.

  • common sense August 7, 2007, 5:39 AM

    ed; you are soooooooooo self righteous-at least we know you’re jewish! there are a ton of serious jewish blogs-and many of them raise the issue of these ridiculous takkanos. are all these people wrong and you’re right? or maybe you just like venting and you have found a forum of people who will give you the time of day.

  • Ezra August 7, 2007, 5:57 AM

    haha good one first comment i left on a blog, but also first blog-site i bookmarked. did rabbi o really go to tiuny and when was this cuz as of late i wana show him the hand of god and some good old fire and brimstone. but also another famous (by association) person went to tiuny, uncle moishies son went there for a few years…

  • Jon P August 7, 2007, 7:36 AM

    Nice post Heshy!

    Does anyone know the website spoken about here?

  • rebelwithacause August 7, 2007, 11:13 AM

    Ed is the next Ted Haggard.

  • ed August 7, 2007, 12:32 PM

    >there are a ton of serious jewish blogs-and many of them raise the issue of these ridiculous takkanos. are all these people wrong and you?re right?

    No. All those people are wrong and the GEDOLIM are right.

  • Guy August 7, 2007, 3:27 PM

    Hey FS just to piss Ed off can you do another crazy Charedi article or something

  • Frum Hiker August 7, 2007, 3:32 PM

    Ed you be right, but it is too fun o stop we all have our tayvas right. Mine happens to be poking fun at the stupidities within the frum community. Your tayva is Gayva- by the way Ed have you ever listened to the marvelous midos machine song about Gayva. You should give it a shot.

    About being frum- everyones version of frum is different. Obviously yours is more of the external kind- since you are not into questioning and would rather follow the pack.

    Do you think the Rabbis next move is to ban women- the men will have to have sex through glory holes since seeing their wives naked is untznius- is that where we are headed.

    The glory hole kind of freaks me out what if your kid sticks their mouth on it or something- bad issues of incest could arise- but as long as we are tznius its fine.

  • notsofrummie August 7, 2007, 3:32 PM

    Great post.. great controversy on that one. I agree the gedolim have gone way to far in their takanas. I think theres so many other issues at hand, but they focus too much on the stupidity ones. And why are the comments talking about rochester and 80’s music. did i miss something?

  • Frum Hiker August 7, 2007, 4:00 PM

    Well Shweky went to Rochester and then someone mentioned Twisted Sister and it was all over from there.

  • rebelwithacause August 7, 2007, 4:11 PM

    Shweky is a hottie. Is he married btw? lol

  • Jennthejewess August 7, 2007, 4:13 PM

    Jon- the website she means is calmkallahs.com- the forums area

    I, a single very very not prude and rather modern girl have spent much time checking out the discussions….nothing really surprised me- me and my friends used to actually sit and make fun of it all- very good idle chatting fodder
    but that being said it is a bit out of control. I am so surprised it hasnt been closed down yet- seriously alot of it is extremely inapropriate (married men and women in VERY sexual discusions together)
    its pretty crazy…yet kinda sad and funny too

    PS the idea of the forums is very smart (it is supposed to be for married or engaged ppl only btw)- i think there are many (esp yeshivish girls) who grew up with absolutely no connection to the opposite sex and to sex or any kind of fooling around. Many need advice but are too embarrassed to ask someone or dont even know what to ask or what they r looking for exactly. This is an anonymous place to discuss
    I do think it has gone out of control tho

    I dont wanna take this to a totally new topic- just wanted to answer Jon but if u wanna get into it lets do it on the public forum

  • Frum Hiker August 7, 2007, 4:16 PM

    I took down the forum Jenn because it was not of any use- you can definitely use the comments area for topics such as these.

    Calm Kallahs is essentially a cyber sex forum for supposedly frum and married people. But newsflash many young men I know go on there and post threads all the time- because it hilarious at the responses and questions.

    Please tell me that the women who has been married 5 years and just found out that sex was supposed to pleasurable and not just a way to make children is a fraud.

    Please tell me that the folks having a hlachic arguement over whther or not to give their wives oral sex is a joke.

    And the girl with the debate in her mind whether to shave her hairy butt is just downright funny.

  • Jennthejewess August 7, 2007, 4:30 PM

    LOL Hesh…Put the public forum back up- its my claim to fame!!!

    The site is damn funny I tell everyone i know to check it out…I just think its a lil outta control

    There was a whole discussion abt what sexier stilletos or High heeled knee length “hooker ” boots…how is this relevent to anything
    every guy was like i love those hooker boots…lol

    Hesh…wen u coming to NYC??

  • Jack August 7, 2007, 4:34 PM

    You soooo misunderstood. Its not about me, but about mocking Torah scholars which is a guarenteed free ride to hell.

    You give some of these people far too much credit and look what they do. Pretty soon we’ll read about how everything must walk backwards while wearing a blindfold and saying tehilim so that they are protected from sin.

  • gulf August 7, 2007, 6:34 PM

    By the way, what is the halacha regarding eating your wifes snatchadoodle? I keep hear conflicting opinions. But none from anyone that matters. I know your not supposed to look at it, but what about burying your face in it?

  • Jennthejewess August 7, 2007, 6:38 PM

    Ask calmkallahs they know everything lol…dude if ur serious u should ask a qualified person not just random ppl on a blog cuz ur gonna get a bunch of conflicting opinions again

  • Frum Hiker August 7, 2007, 7:14 PM

    Nice one Jack, Gulf the halacha according to the Rambam is NO!!!

    Which sucks for the women and the men who enjoy that sort of thing. I can go either way personally but I will stop right there.

  • common sense August 7, 2007, 10:54 PM

    Ed-you say the gedolim are (always) right; but unfortunately this is not the case. i quoted in the last post from a very respected chareidi rosh yeshiva who is also closely related to some of the gedolim who are pressured to make these takkanos. (he said) that depressed jobless people (wait; are there any such chareidim in eretz yisroel?) surround these gedolim and badger them with lies until one cracks and issues a takkanah; then the rest kind of fold under the pressure and swing along. Your supposition that the takannos are direct daas torah is wrong and misinformed.

  • gulf August 7, 2007, 10:56 PM

    Really? The Rambam says that munching the carpet is assur?
    I simply don’t understand! I can totally understand why a girl can’t suck a guys dick, because then you would be oiver the lav of shichvas zerah. But then its really the guy that would be chayiv. But when a dude is eating a bitches cunt there’s nothing being wasted. Hesh, who gets the avairah in that case?

  • Da Jacober Rooov August 7, 2007, 11:48 PM

    Gulf is the new Ice Horse!

  • Da Jacober Rooov August 7, 2007, 11:49 PM

    Gulf, Nivul Peh!

    Vash yur stinkin mouth vid ah soop!

  • Frum Hiker August 8, 2007, 5:48 AM

    From what I hear there is a specific halacha against looking at the carpet and then kissing it is also another halacha.

  • MW August 8, 2007, 6:36 AM

    The talmud says whoever looks at it will be blind and whoever kisses it will be mute. Something like that. I dont know if thats the exact words but I know that they definitely frown upon it lol!!

  • Jennthejewess August 8, 2007, 4:07 PM

    Gulf….lets try to use other words to describe women …bitch is really just not flattering

  • Frum Hiker August 8, 2007, 6:38 PM

    Maybe gulf is black? Because if he is we are just being irgnorant to the words they use to describe women.

    Like they use hoe, bitch, dawg and G.

  • Anonymous August 8, 2007, 8:21 PM

    And then there’s wall-to-wall carpet. I understand that’s very big in Boro Park. Now I’m thinking that could get very expensive. And don’t get me started on how hard it is to clean.

  • Frum Hiker August 8, 2007, 9:32 PM

    Are you talking about the same kind of carpet???

  • ed August 8, 2007, 11:27 PM

    >The talmud says whoever looks at it will be blind and whoever kisses it will be mute. Something like that. I dont know if thats the exact words but I know that they definitely frown upon it lol!!

    Not just frown upon it. Its explicitly prohibited in Shulchan Aruch Orach Chayim 240. You might want to make a Shehecheyanu and open up a sefer for a change.

  • Frum Hiker August 9, 2007, 1:54 AM

    You might want to be dan lcav zchus sometime eh?

  • MW August 9, 2007, 2:02 AM

    Man Ed, ur one big fruit cake arnt ya!! It was a joke you numbskull. I know what it says in the shulchan aruch and gemora ( I might be a girl but I learned about it anyway) some pple are more machmire then others and I REALLY DONT want to get into who keeps what now cuz I am seriously not in the mood!! Stop sounding like you know everything and go lie down b4 you hurt yourself, ok dude!!!!

  • Anonymous August 9, 2007, 9:08 AM

    53- I’m talking about horn dogging some hoochy cooch via application of a forked erectile mouth muscle. What are you talking about?

  • flatbush gal August 12, 2007, 8:51 PM

    what are u exposing me to! well nothing i havent before but dudes.

  • disgusted August 13, 2007, 6:26 AM

    not a funny article at all! and it d0esnt depend on your humour! You have to be perverted and sick to appreciate this! are you forgetting who you are talking about? huge torah giants! whats wrong with you?

  • Hesh August 13, 2007, 7:29 PM

    According to my psychotherapist I am extremely angry and messed up. I should be on anti-depressants and Ritalin, maybe some lipitor as well.

    Disgusted: I am perevrted, definately not sick. In fact I do not take any medicine and rarely get sick. Maybe it is due to my healthy lifestyle and yeras shamyim.

  • disgusted August 14, 2007, 8:25 PM

    Ed?? Ok let me put this simply enough for someone of your intellect to understand! You do not know me, have never seen me and probably never will, know nothing about me and also probably never will. I live in an extremely sheltered community but am very open minded. I am very opposed to being closed minded because that is inflicting your exact lifestyle on other people. But this website is beyond all that. I am not your typical ‘frum’ girl at all and if you knew me you would be shocked at how angry this has made me. But to see a website where its sole purpose is to discrimintate Judaism and see it being run by a ‘yid with a warped perspective’ is disgraceful. I would not be doing the right thing by standing by and not voicing my opinion. Yes I visited Leah or something like thats site and I am not even prepared to comment. She obviously has severe issues and thats not her fault. Her approach o Judaism is apikores and she is fully aware of that. So yes in an obvious way your site is different but on the whole its pretty similar. Yours too is a big chilul Hashem!! And as a ‘frum yid’ I would have thought you were aware of the punishment for that.

  • The Dude December 12, 2007, 4:19 AM

    You know I think that the Charedim are like Congressmen they sign pork barrel legislation that gets pushed through without their knowledge and all the sudden we have another ridiculous chumra ban whatever.

    You know they sign a document and at the bottom of the page they don’t notice something that says concerts should be banned and everyone starts going nuts.

    Freakin special interest charedim eh

  • Hesh December 12, 2007, 4:08 PM

    Haha, good one man I wish I could have come up with something like that, you probably are right.

  • elisheva miriam January 21, 2008, 1:43 AM

    well … if you want to eat bugs by all means go ahead. Our Rabbis job is to inform us of these problems, no one is going to twist your arm to do a darn thing. The biggest problem I see is that people THINK these Rabbis are judging … THEY aren’t but it seems they are being judged for doing their job. Thank you HaShem for our Rabbis !! and Thank you HaShem for my fellow jews to question what they are told. I will never follow blindly… but I will listen – Klal Yisroel Chai!!

  • anony April 10, 2008, 9:28 PM

    Do you people actually believe what it says in the torah shebichsav and torah shebaalpeh? If you know anything, you’d realize that Ed is correct. I would assume that most of you are not too knowledgeable considering the lashon hara that is going on here. We, including myself, have no right to say anything about the gedolim (whether or not we think that are great or evil) simply b/c of the basic halachos of lashon hara.
    We don’t know the whole story and cannot judge anyone. There are numerous halchos about how men and women should be distanced. I know there are women who think the Torah is anti-Women, but that is not true at all. Anyone who believes that is going against the Torah. I agree it may seem that way. It may seem that it’s not fair how men are “in control”…and women seem to be thrownb aside, but we should ask ourselves another question. Is it fair that a baby is born with a illness, causing it to die within a month after birth? Why did G-d make the wolrd in a way that that can occur? We can’t understand everything. Women are here for a reason and men as well. I am a guy and I don’t think frum women really appreciate the Torah’s attitude regarding arayos. In the secular world, men only want one thing. However, there are men who actually care and appreciate their wives in the frum world…The women are treated properly. Most guys/men though, even in the frum world, are not this way b/c it’s so difficult to fight their yetzer haras. Anyone who never was able to “win” (you can never win) and at least put up a battle doesn’t REALLY know how difficult it is. This means attempting to avoid looking at women, newspapers, or anything which may fall under the issur “v’lo sasuru”. Women don’t have it as hard as men in that way. They have other yitzrei harah which are big tests and passing them makes them closer to hashem.

  • heshman April 10, 2008, 11:34 PM

    I hope you will get some response, I am curious as to what people will say.

    Although the latest in banning has really raised some questions about motives- politics, money, bribery and treachery all enter the picture now.

  • s(b.) April 11, 2008, 9:45 AM

    anony // Apr 10, 2008 at 9:28 pm “It may seem that it’s not fair how men are “in control”…and women seem to be thrownb aside”
    If you consider creating and maintaining the home and the educating children being thrown aside, I feel sorry for you.

  • s(b.) April 11, 2008, 9:50 AM

    anony // Apr 10, 2008 at 9:28 pm “Women don’t have it as hard as men in that way.”
    You’re incorrect if you think many women aren’t tempted by men, too. You’d have to be both genders to truly know which gender has a more difficult time dealing with those types of temptations. Why do you think not satisfying the wife is grounds for a wife to get a get? It’s important, and the urges for it exist in women, too.

  • heshman April 11, 2008, 10:07 AM

    You tell him, if women weren’t tempted by men we all might as well move to mars.

  • Mikeinmidwood May 13, 2008, 10:59 PM

    My only question is if these bans mean so much where were they 20 and 30 years ago?

  • heshman May 14, 2008, 8:52 AM

    Oh because 20-30 years ago people were much frummer and many more true talmidei chachamim were alive.

  • shidduchgreiper September 29, 2008, 10:49 AM

    You want to know why these chumras are being bandied about left right and center? It is because certain segments of the frum community are very shallow and believe that the more outwardly extreme, the loftier. People go meshuga with the chumros because it brings them praise and prestige, and makes them look frummer in the eyes of others. It’s just another case of putting oneself up by putting another down.

  • Frum Satire September 29, 2008, 1:32 PM


    You should check out the post on the chumra research institute- I predicted what else will be banned.

  • B.BarNavi September 5, 2010, 4:04 PM

    Real Reason: The Rabbunim were oh-so-concerned that Shwekey will lose his precious and unique Sephardic minhagim to Fried’s holier nusach, so for Shwekey’s own good the concert was to be segregated.

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